Another typical group of McCain supporters in Denver.

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akuma587 said:

NJ5 said:

SamuelRSmith said:
What's the problem with socialism? I thought these people supported freedoms, that's part of being an "American", right? Freedom? Well, to these guys, it's like you only have the Freedom to agree with them, else you're a communist.

And what's wrong with communism, anywho?

You know the funny thing about socialist policies? Once they're implemented, people will be revolted if you take them away.

Try taking social security, unemployment benefits and things like that away from the American people and see what happens.

 

People hate socialist policies before they are passed, but once they are passed if you try and take them away the people won't let you.  That is pretty much what America stands for in a nutshell, lying to itself about just about everything.

 

 

It depends on the issue, but I actually agree.  For example: Most Ams don't want Universal Healthcare, they may think it will raise their taxes, lower quality of care to some people, lead to fully socialized medicine out of fear of the word, or  hurt the fiinancial markets.

The first two are probably right, the third is unlikely it will probably remain privatized and semi-competitive, and the fourth is debatable.  If the government strarts insuring all the people who aren't currently through private providers, then their sales go up.  The government pays good prices too.  Long term however, the few providers will probably shrink to an even smaller group though we'll probably see more local branches.

Once the poor and middle class are getting assistance with healthcare, the vast-majority of them woud never vote to take them away.  It will be saving them money and easier to manage.  The businesses and upperclass will be paying more for their own coverage but less for employees.  More profits and removing that entitlement would make them have to go back to the barbaric "healthcare tied to a job" system - where they spend money on benefits, but also on managing and organizing their employees benefits.  The taxes would probably be less than what the difference per individual, especially if they raise taxes on investments instead of wage income (in all but the lowest interest income brackets).