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Plaupius on 24 October 2008
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endimion said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
endimion said:

woawoawoa wait a second.... iPhone only ???? let me add something to the list.... you can add iTune.... iPod..... and iMac.... iSight and so on so forth..... come on there isn't a single sustainable argument that justify the price of any apple hardware... not a single one... beside design and still there IMHO it's still over priced.... and don't throw at me MACOS X first it's the OS that doesn't justify the price of the hardware... I can run a distro of linux on a PC that equal or outrun the qualities of OS X... then more stable... yeah well I crash about as often macs than PCs.... and to finish.... when people tell me more secure my ass.... OS X at the last bench mark took less time to be over taken than vista.... so even there the myth is not true... apple is a Fing scam pricewise FULL STOP.... now when they'll have a mac book pro air at less than $1500 we'll talk

 

Mac OS X is awesome. In fact it's so awesome the guy who won that hacking competition uses macs for everything.

Interview link: http://securitywatch.eweek.com/apple/mac_hacked_via_safari_browser_in_pwn2own_contest.html

He went on record saying he'd use the money prize to buy a Mac Pro =D

didn't say mac is not good... it's great.... but it's way overpriced....... like i said i'll get one the day they put out a macbook pro air under 1500

 

It's kinda ironic that you should mention sustainable arguments for the price of Apple HW. Because I have one that is what you are asking for: business. Apple is a business, it is implementing a strategy that is radically different from any other large computer manufacturer, and as a result, Apple is able to maintain healthy profit margins. Mind you, the rest of the computer market has been run down in the last 10 years or so, the PC manufacturers operate on such thin margins that it is basically close to a zero profit market.

Another thing: as is very clearly evident from the financial results, design is indeed a sustainable argument for a higher price. In fact, it's much moreso than any performance related feature or technological advance, which become all but obsolete in just a couple of years, whereas good design is timeless and maintains its value over the years.

I'm not arguing that Macs are better or worse than PCs, I just want to stress out time and time again that Apple has a different strategy, and Apple customers value somewhat different things than those who buy cheaper Windows computers. For me, the price difference is a non-factor: I'll be using any Mac I buy a minimum of 2.5 years, more likely around 3 years or about 36 months. With a price difference of, say, $1000, that translates into less than $30 per month, provided that I use the Windows machine for a similar amount of time. I'm very happy to pay that for the overall better user experience I get from the Mac, and if I choose to resell my old Mac when I buy a new one, the price difference is practically nonexistent (my current MBP has a resell value of around €900, maybe less now that the new models are out). Anyway, my point is that I know there is a price difference, but I'm not basing my buying decision on price. And I guess that makes me one of the people Apple is targeting.