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umh to me with M+K you move more with the mouse than anything else... it's like flight controls, you move with the stick but use the throttle. That is why mouse alone is better than controler.... now if you had an analog stick + mouse... that would rock.... provided you have enough buttons on that stick (the nostromo thing is a good basis for that...) still for consoles, I have yet to try it, but I guess the wii is as good as it can get controlwise but it'll never equal high sensitivity mouse for turning...



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