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In ref to Orange Box, most are saying comparatively speaking to the 360 version, which itself is inferior to the PC version, assuming a decent build.

The reality is that most (myself included) with an opinion regarding the port and its technical issues, HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED IT.

That being said, I'm not about to buy a copy of the PS3 version when I already have the slightly smoother 360 version and acknowledge that the PC version looks much sharper in addition to running much smoother on my PC. Same for Bioshock.

At least the 360 version gave me a bunch of gamer points whatever the hell that's supposed to be worth.