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@stick, trolling would be saying the 360 is a POS, thats not what I said, I said I'm tired of MS not fixing its problems, and btw those jasper chips were just released and most buyers probably dont even know if they have it or not so only time will tell, right now I know though that MS gave me and everyone else a faulty product and the data backs it up, at one point over %30 having RROD, and all they do is send you a refurb when you send yours in, thats not fixing the problem at all, which is what the thread is about, they wanna fix it they need to redesign it , not just throw a different chip in there.