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Zucas on 20 October 2008
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hsrob said:
Zucas said:
Username2324 said:
Zucas said:
Username2324 said:
No PS3 or 360 game played in 480p looks worse than the Conduit. End of thread.

 

I'd hate to say it but the burden of proof of that is on you. Meaning ever PS3 and or 360 game ever created you need to post a video of it in 480p compared to the eventual final project to make that true.

Don't make empirical statements if you can't back it up.

You don't think I'm right? Prove me wrong, meaning you post any PS3 or 360 game that looks worse.

The simple fact that most games are, or attempt to be rendered in 720p almost gaurantee that they would look better than anything the Wii is capable of in 480p.

 

Haha that's cute tryign to get out of it. YOU made the empirical statement... not me. Meaning the burde of proof is on YOU and not me. So either you retract it as an opinion which requires no proof or you start researching now. No one is going to take your word on it so start.

 

Zucas, i generally admire you for being at almost all times a pretty reasonable poster, but here i must contest. You have on one hand said that the burden of proof lies on the side of HD but then in another post said that the appearance of games is entirely subjective. I agree with the second part of the statement in that i believe there are already Wii games that look better than some HD games.

This is what i was getting at in my initial post. Even if someone can 'prove' that there are HD games that look worse than The Conduit, then what? Why not just judge the game on it's own merits rather than saying it looks better than the graphically worst game on the HD systems, which isn't much of a compliment.

 

While I have no idea who you are I admire you for being honest with me.  Burden of proof does lie with him.  If you know what an empirical statement is you know why the burden of proof is on him.

And yes I have said looks is clearly subjective. Meaning his job is going to be a lot harder now isn't it.  I never said his job was unreasonable now did I.  All I said if he's going to make the empricial statment then he has to be able to back it up.  And if it's impossible to back up then what does he have to admit? I think you get my point. 

Trust me I'm always completely reasonable its just in this case my reason can only be shown if he admits his faults which usually doesn't happen so in turn just makes me look like an ass I suppose. A correct one though. 

I totally agree that games should be judged on their own merit.  I'm one of the few people on this god forsakken forums that think graphics shoudl be judged on polish, design, and atmosphere instead of simply how realistic it looks. But this is not what this topic is about so it's kinda pointless to make that statement anyways.  Or is it?  I think whether the author intended for it or not that this thread leads to nothing and has no end. Meaning the only point of the thread is to come up with that thought which would be the most open minded thing ever now wouldn't it.  Such shallowness comes out of a thread like this when the only possibly answer is one of of open mindedness to perception is reality and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Spanx whether ya did that on purpose or not I give ya kudos for it.