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Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
(5) OK, so basic necessities for survival are covered.  That's a given.  Now, which would you say is more valuable and helpful to a person:  College education or a summer house?  Which is more satisfying:  a video game system or a second sailboat?

Two more before i go.

Depends on the person. I had a college education and it has had no value or no help to me whatsoever.  While some rich guys second home gives him a place to go in the summer.

Which is more satisfying?  Once again... would depend on your person.  Some sailboat enthusiast likely loves sailboats.
Which is a flaw you don't account for.
People have different expectations and standards of living... largely based off of the money they have.
"Quality of Life" is based off of "Standards of Living" in my opinion.

4) Also regarding this.  Do we know for a fact that most people who are rich had a big leg up on people?
Regardless my point is.  Take an even distribution of people.... and apply it to our current wealth system.
What happens is what happens with my friend and I... on every level.

Those good with money go up.... those bad with money go down in wealth.  Therefore your wealth based initatives aren't really hitting everybody fairly, since the wealth group isn't as evenly distributed as you are making it out to be.

More people good with money are in the top groups then people bad with money and vice versa.
Your entire premise of taking wealth as the defining factor is fundamentally flawed.

Okay, but on average I think you'd agree that video game systems offer way more bang for your buck, even at a 10:1 ratio. 

And most people do get something out of college.  Your higher education was really that worthless? 

You say at one point that wealthier people have higher expectations about their standard of living.  And they WILL have a higher standard of living.  But I don't honestly see your point.  What people actually need is not dependent on what they think they need, but if that's not what you were getting at then I really don't know what it was you were trying to say here. 

Going back to (4), I remind you again that "although the progressive income tax can accurately tax wealth in society on average, it doesn't ACTUALLY tax wealth."  Before you bought the property in your example, you and your friend paid the same income tax.  And afterward, the income tax only taxed the income from the rent; if you have a problem with property taxes that's a different issue.  If you think that having a tax weighted exactly the same as wealth in society is misrepresentative, then it could be adjusted to compensate for your objection. 

Yeah.  Though I did Major in Psychology and Sociology so.