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Cueil said:

 

Your friends are obviously better than you... I wont go so far as to call you trash, but you lean dangerously close to being so.  More people die from idiots in the US every year than have died from both the attack and the war... you can't seriously be angry that your "friends" had the sense of patriotism to join a military that fights to protect you.  Regaurdless of where they are at now that is where their hearts where at and that's why they join.  And they don't get sent to Iraq for no reason... if you still think we are not there for a reason you have mental issues... we went in there for the wrong reasons, but we are certainlly not still there for the wrong reasons.

So I guess we are like a guy who rapes and beats the hell out of a woman, but then decides to stick around while trying to control every decision she makes because it is "good for the kid" even though we know we are going to break up with her in a few years anyways.

And those soldiers you are talking about who kill less people than the "idiots" in the US have killed or displaced millions of Iraqi civilians.  Did you forget about all those people?  You can't ignore loss of life just because the people aren't from America.

I agree that we should handle Iraq carefully, but your logic is like saying that if something was built on a completely false pretense that it is OK if we substitute that pretense for a slightly less false pretense, that everything we are doing is for the good of the Iraqi people. 

It wouldn't be so bad if the Iraqis didn't actually want us to leave.  The majority of the Iraqi population wants us to leave before 2009 ends, and that includes the prime minister (ironically the one we put into power).  How can you rationalize occupying a country that doesn't even want you to be there?

The real life equivalent of that would be trespass or burglary.

 



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