Japan - First Day Sales (Wii Music debut)

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noname2200 said:

No. No you don't.

For starters, your implied contention that traditional titles don't sell on the Wii in Japan is flawed, since Brawl, Kart, Galaxy, and others have been doing quite well for themselves. They've all outsold the nearest core console title in Japan, first or third party (Metal Gear). If anything, that statistic can be flipped to say that core titles sell best on the Wii, since all but one of the core titles that have sold over 500k are on the Wii.

But moving to your main contention that "You have to realize something is wrong with your userbases' buying habits (the Wii's) when Metal Gear Solid 4 on PS3 can nearly outsell your top 2, 3rd party games on another system with well over twice the userbase."

Why would you expect third-party Wii games to compete with Metal Gear Solid 4 in terms of sales, when the latter obviously has much more time, energy, talent, and advertising thrown into it than any non-Nintendo Wii title? I invite you to name a third-party core Wii game that deserves to have that level of sales in Japan.

You do realize I'm talking 3rd party games as a whole, and not first party games, right? there's a reason I only selected those. It's obvioust that Nintendo titles are doing rather well (except for Super Mario Galaxy which hasn't done so hot in Japan). I was only talking 3rd parties. You can throw Brawl and the like in there - but again - I'm talking 3rd parties.

But you'll no doubt say that Metal Gear was just an example, and that considering the size of the base traditional Wii titles (from third parties; we're again neglecting Nintendo since that contradicts the argument) there should be more Wii titles in your table. So I extend my invitation further. Which third-party core Wii game do you think had half the care and attention as Devil May Cry, or Tales of Vesperia?

No More Heroes? Tales of Symphonia: DoTNW? Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dragon Quest spinoffs on the DS have sold over 1 million copies, but did half of that on the Wii.

Ah, but I'd like for you to comment further, because as demonstrated above, the numbers only tell part of the tale. At the risk of being a broken record: which side of the aisle do you reckon has seen more effort by third parties so far, the Wii or the PS3? I'll give you a starting point, if you wish: examine your list, and tell me which system has the mainline games, and which has the spinoffs. Then proceed to look at development budgets. Next, name me third party Wii games that should have sold better.

I'm not going to argue the Wii hasn't seen as much 3rd party development as the Playstation 3. But why is it that Konami keeps putting out mainline titles like Pro Baseball Spirits and other big baseball titles, and sells well below the PS2 versions? What about the fact that Pro Evolution Soccer sold 3 times as many copies on the PS3 as the Wii? Go look at the Apple to Apple comparisons: The Playstation 3 won quite a few of them if I'm not mistaken.

Again, I'd like someone here to explain how a system that has 7 million consoles sold manages to put out a very popular sports game like Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, and gets outsold by a system that has under 1/2 the hardware units available.