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Legend11 said:
Ok I'll bite... Put together a PC (you don't have to include monitor) that cost $349 that can play all the games coming out on PC decently (that includes Stranglehold).

In that PC you'll have to include the cost of a computer case, power supply, dvd drive, ram, motherboard, cpu, videocard, keyboard, harddrive, mouse, fans, and an operating system (no free OS with Wine or similar bs either, they choke and have problems with some (many?) PC games, so either XP or Vista).

Good luck...

In case you missed out on this (which obivously you did), we are saying that Stranglehold is not an optimized PC game, but rather an unoptimized PC port, which is just as unfair as expecting consoles to run Crysis without any optimization, right?

You are looking at one console - the 360. I am saying that if you wanted to play Mario Galaxy, GT5 and Halo3, well, you will need to buy more than one console. Of course, that argument can be thrown against the PC as well (you need to buy all those consoles if you want to play those games) but the same can be said for the PC: There are PC-only games that if you want to play, you will need to buy a PC. Therefore, that argument is moot.

And when did I ever say PC gaming would cost 350$? I say the starting point for reasonably good PC gaming starts at $700 (some say lower but then again, that just shows how we perceive things differently). PC gamers rarely use their PCs for gaming only. It's a multipurpose machine and delivers value not just on the gaming front. That's something that cannot be said about consoles.

But ok, I'll bite:

Minimum System Requirements of Stranglehold, a game completely unoptimized for a PC, thereby requiring the PC to run the game by brute-force:

Windows XP SP2 / VISTA
(Games for Windows compliant)

Microsoft Windows Vista
Home Basic
$50.00http://software.pricegrabber.com/windows-family-os/m/31221703/search=vista
Dual Core ProcessorAMD Athlon 3800+ AM2$59.99http://computers.pricegrabber.com/processors-unboxed-oem/m/34842997/search=dual%20core
2 Gigs of RamKingston ValueRAM
2GB PC2-5300 DDR2
DIMM Memory Kit
$74.99
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/laptop-memory/m/8442613/
Nvidia 7800 or higher /
ATI x1300 or higher
Asus Radeon X1300
Video Card
$52.70
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/video-cards/m/15838257/search=1300
Disk space: 15 gigs Fujitsu Mobile
MHT2040AH
40GB Hard Disk
$26.00
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/hard-drives/m/1734759/
Other required PC stuff:
Barebones PC kit
MSI MBOX K9VGM-V
Barebone System
$74.99 http://computers.pricegrabber.com/barebone-systems/m/35657033/details/

Hmm... let's see:

50.00 + 59.99 + 74.99 + 52.70 + 26.00 + 74.99 = US$338.67

Throw in a cheap keyboard and mouse and you're set - for about US$350.

Mind you, I wouldn't buy something like this, but we are talking about getting Stranglehold to run, correct?

Oh, and you can also make all that money back - and much much more, by using your computer for productivity purposes - unlike the 360. But I'm sure you already knew that.

See? That wasn't so hard - and no luck required!

Edit: I forgot about the optical drive (but since it wasn't listed as per ckmlb's specs, but you can find DVD drives for less than 15$ and CD-ROMs for less than 4$. Doesn't change the price much, and you can probably still buy the lot for a smidgen under $350 (taxes and S&H not included, but then again, it isn't included for the 360 either).