Trophies or Achievments?

[Onyxmeth]

Impulsivity said:

Onyxmeth said:

Impulsivity said:

Also the 360 has some horrid gamerscore inflation because of release titles with REALLY easy achievements. You can get super easy points from games like NBA 2006 where you can get all 5 200 point achievements in the space of a single game. There are at least 30,000 gimme points you could get in a few weekends with gamefly, there are no such things on the PS3, it was made after people realized the point of making them challenging and worthwhile. If you see someone with a 50k gamerscore it isn't immediately clear whether he just grinded gimme games or earned it, with a higher lv on the PS3 you know he earned it.

PS3 games aren't all necessarily going to have more difficult achievements. Criterion decided to make the Burnout Paradise trophies twice as easy as the 360 achievements for the game, plus in the PS3 version there is no reward for finishing the game at all. In the end, it's all about the individual developers, and not about the system they put it on.

I also noticed in some multiplats i've played like GTAIV and Burnout, the trophy levels don't always match up to the level of difficulty in obtaining them. I've seen Gold trophies that probably should have been Bronze, Silver that should have been Gold, etc. I even read a post when Pixeljunk Monsters Eden came out and people were complaining about that problem there also with some very difficult tasks only rewarding Bronze trophies. 360 has the same problem with the GS for games not always adding up well with the difficulty, so again this looks to be a developer issue, and one that will plague both systems pretty equally.

 

  For burnout I'm 99.9% sure they made them less hardcore because they found out they couldn't just reference the in game achievements after all.  It is one thing to ask people to do 10 showtimes over again, its quite another to ask them to do EVERYTHING in the game from scratch on a new save file for the platinum.

   As to the inflation go to a 360 achievements site and look at the REALLY early achievements on games like Madden 06 and the like.  It's not just half as easy or anything, there are at least 30k points that are flat out gimmes.  I rented a few early on when I used to use the 360 (before the PS3 came out) and I was getting like 1000 points per hour easy renting 3 at a time from gamefly.

 

I don't see the difference there. Don't you need to restart the game anyways if you've finished? They're basically making you restart anyways. My point was that it's up to the individual developer to make them difficult or easy, and it will be pretty even across both platforms in the future. Burnout was just an example because you said some early achievmenets were too easy and tophies will all be "earned". I was showing that you needed to do more earning in Burnout on 360 than on PS3. Also I'm pretty sure the trophies can mimic the achievements, because I think GTAIV's trophies are the spitting image, even in the names.

If we're talking sports games, guess what? They all have easy achievements, even to this day. I got over 750 GS in Madden 09 in like 3 hours of gametime. If you think the trophies on future sports games are going to be any different, you'll be sorely disappointed next year. Some games are going to be trophy whore games the same way there are achievement whore games. Mostly it's sports games and games aimed towards children.