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Torillian said:

@Happy

I've read it, and honesty I feel like I've seen this argument from you a hundred times over.

"well this game is a failure because I saw someone say they thought it would get 10 mil. sales"

y'know I've seen people say the Wii would do better than it has (John Lucas) so can I now call the Wii a failure?

You (probably) have seen the argument from me several times, and you will probably see it in the future as well ...

I think there is a difference from using John Lucas or Crazzyman's predictions to characterize an entire userbase because (for the most part) they are outliers and using their predictions would be cherrypicking; as a result I was not putting forward the predictions that Ratchet and Clank Future would outsell Super Mario Galaxy because that was an (obviously) bad prediction. The predictions I am using would fall fairly close to the mean or median average of predictions made by fans for these games.

Anyways, I'm not talking about "Failure" in the sense that it wasn't a game that was worthwhile to make either, I'm just talking about a game that Failed to meet the expectations of the fanbase in general. Had I suggested that Ratchet and Clank would only receive sales of 1 to 2 Million units before it launched I would have been attacked by PS3 fans ... I know this because I suggested that Ratchet and Clank would only receive sales of 1 to 2 Million units before it launched and I was attacked by PS3 fans.