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ZenfoldorVGI said:

Finally, a real argument. I still disagree, but that's what I wanted to see. JRPGs are an easily definably sub-genre, and they have nothing to do with being made in Japan. I still think its impossible to name a game in the same sub-genre as DMC, before DMC came out, and passing off DW or Tenchu won't work.

Now, the general community hasn't named the DMC sub-genre, so they usually just say stuff like, "An action game in the vein of DMC." Very few 3rd person 3D action games in DMC's particular genre, whatever that may be, get their queues from DMC or games based upon it. That's obvious, not bias.

Again, acting like NG, GoW, and many, many other games weren't directly influenced, if not based upon DMC, and that many could consider such games a subgenre is rediculious, imo. There are action games, and then there are also action games based upon the original DMC game. It's a sub-set, if not a sub-genre. What, you don't think Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2, God of War, and Heavenly Sword aren't direct ripoffs of the original Devil May Cry, even though they might have improved upon the formula? They most certainly are.


Directly influencing some other games doesn't = subgenre.   What other games were really influenced by DMC though?  Just for the record.

Sub Genres are much bigger then the handfull of games you describe. 

Subset DMC games would still fit in the Hack N Slash genre of Action.  If you want there to be a little "sub set" of DMC style games after that... that's fine.

The Sub genre however is still Hack N slash.