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Kasz216 on 09 October 2008
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Kasz216 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
jasonnc80 said:
Saw this yesterday...

Looks a lot like DMC series, lots of style yet shallow combat. Trailer was "interesting" at least.

 

DMC 1 and 3 are both great, and the combat isn't shallow.

DMC hater in the building, methinks. What are you, Ninja Gaiden or GoW fan?

In other words, do you prefer unfair cheap offscreen deaths, or block puzzles?

DMC 1 invented this subgenre. It, and its creator, should be respected, if you care for the genre at all.

 

What do you classify this sub genre as?  Cause that just isn't true... hack N slash games existed before Devil May Cry.

I'd hate to be the one to try to name it, but maybe 3rd person, non-fixed camera, Action-based 3D beat-em-up. Howbout Styalized 3rd person action game.

Other games in the sub-genre include new Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2, Shinobi PS2, Heavenly Sword, the new 3d Castlevania games(except for castlevania 64, which is more akin to Zelda than DMC), and God of War.

Double Dragon, Final Fight, Contra, all different sub-genres.

Of course the hack and slash existed before, however what you are implying is that 2d and 3d castlevania games are in the same genre, when one is basically a platformer, and the other is a 3rd person, non-fixed camera, action-based 3D beat-em-up.

There is no doubt that the games I talked about are a member of a larger genre, but there was as subgenre of games created and inspired by the original Devil May Cry game. It didn't so much reinvent the hack n slash genre as it did create a subgenre in and of itself.

Not to be argumentative, but classifying this sub-genre is like the supreme court classifying porn on the internet. I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. Bayonetta is definitely a member of that sub-genre.

You also know it when you see it. DMC was the first game like this, with the upgradable super moves, the 3rd person iffy camera, the styalized action, and the quick darting killing techniques, the over the top hard as balls bosses, and multiple difficulty levels that accompany most games in this genre. I think we should just call it the DMC genre, unless there was a game that did it earlier, which there wasn't considering DMC was a very early release on the PS2, and at the time "true next gen gameplay." Thus, my earlier post.

No what i'm applying is that there were plenty of 3-D Hack N slash games before Devil May Cry.  Not sure if any were fixed cameras though.

It's not a real sub genre... your just naming certain aspects of the game that you like.  You could do that with anything and claim it's a sub genre.

Like a "Space Marine" sub genre of FPS or something like that.