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joshin69 said:
so they are both out of the three year warranty? how much is it to get them repaired these days? if it is close to the cost of an arcade i would say take em to court. Im a PS3 chap myself but i get that it is expensive. hassle MS untill they sort it for free would be my advice (its what i would do) for what its worth

 

they are both still in warranty.

It hasn't been 3 years yet.  getting close though with one of em.