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When you factor in everything then the ps3 is more bang for the buck, but when you just include stuff just to be able to play a game, which most casuals care about then i think they would pick the 360 every time.

Sony have done good to get the ps3 price so low for what it gives you, the thing is do most people care about all of that when they see the price, with hidden costs like with the 360, it makes the console seem cheaper, and when you buy the things to get it up to standard week by week as you notice the features it is lacking you dont realise how uch money you have spent on it.

Microsoft are very clever in that respect and i say hats off to them.