360 Numbers don't add up!

[Monty]

Wow... it's nice to see you guys missed me! I got accused a lot for keeping this conversation afloat and people said they wanted me to leave, but apparently my being gone for a week hasn't slowed things down a bit! I'm not sure I can answer all of your questions, comments, and ideas... but I'd like to start by clarifying a couple things. First off, I originally took on the NA argument, because it was the easiest to compare figures, and the continent that we have the most available data for. We had US NPD data readily available to us, and it seems everybody had a different idea as to what to add on for NA... some even saying that NA was already included into the NPD data. Anyhow, most of you said there is a well known 10% rule... I have always maintained... and still do... that it would have to be over 10%. You guys fought me tooth and nail over that. And, now I'm reading that vgcharts adds in 15% (if I'm reading that correctly) for the rest of NA. So, you guys have apparently switched from your "well known" 10% rule to 15%? So, if I'm understanding correctly, you guys have jumped from adding ZERO in on the NPD data for NA, to 10%, and now you're at 15%. Where will you guys stop? Just curious... As for me, unlike you guys, I never claimed to have exact data for NA... I never claimed to be all knowing on this issue. Looking back on it, I believe both sides of this made some very wrong guesses as to NA early on in the debate. It's nice to see we're meeting in the middle somewhere on that... you guys are going at 15% now (well above your initial guess at 0%), and I've definitely come well off my initial guess of 1 million, and would say it is closer to the 675,000 or so that you guys are claiming. It's great that we can work problems out like this! Anyhow, most of my argument has been using logic and common sense. It's pretty clear that MS is around 11 million shipped at this point, and I still maintain it seems highly illogical that the sales would be at 8 million (2.7 million of stock out?). I guess time will tell if vgcharts treats the consoles equally... I'll be paying very close attention when the Wii announces that it shipped 10 million... it will be VERY interesting to see if the sale reflect 7.9 million of sales at that time. I somehow doubt it, but if so, then I at least can't complain they are biased. They may be wrong at that point, but not biased.