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konnichiwa said:
Kasz216 said:
konnichiwa said:
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konnichiwa said:
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konnichiwa said:
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akuma587 said:

QFT, the US has been in head-up-ass mode for at least the last eight years, probably the last thirty. Our hostility to foreign culture and foreign ideas is so deep-seated that it scares me sometimes...

At least we do still have talented artists, although they may be bogged down in the same problems as the rest of us.

Wha???

I would say Europe is many times worse in that regard.  They don't care about anything outside the europeon union.

You think America is bad... look at countries like France... where in recent years they've had laws outright banning aspects other cultures because of their fear of immigration. (When they had the headscarf law... if they've ever even gotten rid of that.)

America is much more accepting of multiculturalism... heck it's basically the US' defining feature.

Aside from which... really looking at it politically when it's about literature?


Wut? The France population is scared of Immigratiion that is why they choose a immigrant as President?


The headscarf law was if I am right only for the seperation of State and church and schools.  In a lot of Islam countries like Turkey you can't wear a headscarf on school aswell...Why is it so wrong then if France do it?  And other EU countries aswell?


Because it's actually part of their religion?  That's like telling a Jewish person he has to eat non kosher foods.

Seperation of church and state doesn't mean persecuting peoples religious beliefs.

You and I both know that the kind of immigrants they are afraid of are just that... muslims.

Comparing single Europeon countries and America as a whole is a ridiclious premise just due to the size difference... you can drive from one country to another in a short period of time.   Europeon literature as a whole is pretty insular as well.... because writers write what they know.

The real reason most nobel prize winners are Europeon is because the judges are all sweedish.

 

 

 Again, if muslims are not allowed to wear one in Islam countries like Turkey why do they demand it then from a not Islam country like France.  Christians are not allowed to wear Christian symbols, Jews are not allowed to wear their things...But if they want it their are always Catholic, Jews, Islam schools

It started with demanding to wear a headscarf...Now they want that muslim holy days also count on schools and that their is no school on that day, that they only serve Halal food.  Sorry but France and other EU countries schould not adapt their rules/laws on what the muslim immigrants want, if they can't stand how the rules are their are always muslim schools for them.

And Swedisch are now biased aswell great...

Wait, you don't have a problem with that? A government institution forcing people to leave important articles of their faith at home is a good thing? The government has gone from forcing Catholicism to forcing a form of atheism... Some may argue that's a step in the right direction but I won't. Neither idea is worth a damn.

Hey, I despise organized religion like nobody's business... Absolutely hate it. But even I have to acknowledge that there's something fundamentally wrong with a government that forces people to leave their religious beliefs at home, even when some of those beliefs (headscarves, for example) are so important to people of that faith. It's a slap in the face of God to go outside without one. Personally, I think the idea that God cares if you wear a certain headdress or not is bullshit but we should all respect that person's beliefs and let them wear a fuckin' scarf if they think it gets them in good with God.

Am I the only one who sees the problem with this kind of thinking?

Then again, maybe I should shut up because it's obvious that Muslims are happy with how the French government is treating them... After all, it's been a few years since they rioted en masse.

Nah, now you are overreacting it.  It is only at school, if they really want to wear it they can go to a Muslim school their are plenty of them.  If you want that your son is a Christian and would go to the church with school every week then you would send him to a Christian school don't ya?

You are comparing a church(where you can go anytime) to an article of clothing that some branches of muslims as something that must be worn outside at all times or it's a sin?

Not remotely similar.

Not exactly.  If a moslim wants that her daughter wears a headscarf because of her religion why do they don't send them then to a Moslim school;  Those schools are made specially for the Moslim community, they only serve hallal food, on special Moslim days they have a free day etcetera...  Headscarfs is one thing but it always go farther.  If you make a trip with school and you are going to a restaurent then they should go to a Hallal restaurant because the Moslim students wants.....It creates problem especially in some parts of France where evere class excists of students with more than 5 different religions...

 

That's basically the definition of the Jim Crow laws.  "Seperate but equal".

Problem being, seperate is never equal.