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bbsin said:
Tyrannical said:
Go read the various Forza1/2 reviews, where it is called a better game then GT.

go show it to us.

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From IGN:

I can go on and on about the nuances and the plusses and minuses of Forza Motorsport, but the real thing is this: It's a hell of a racing simulation. There is nothing quite like it on Xbox, and fans who have been screaming for their own version of Gran Turismo finally have what they wanted.

Forza boasts an enormous amount of cars, tracks, and features, and it's got numerous qualities that GT doesn't have -- real car damage that affects performance and deals out consequences for poor driving. It's got people in the cars. What a crazy idea, I know, but you'll actually see people driving these cars, and where it's required, they drive on the right side of the car in Europe and Japan, and on the left side in the US. Nifty. It's easily got one of the most sophisticated, deep, and innovative online systems on the Xbox, with 1,400 leader boards, career online play, and class-based racing, with full support of cars clubs, and a huge laundry list of options from laps, car kinds, damage, you name it. It also packs a great customization feature both inside and out, a super cool progression scheme and point system, an excellently designed set of efficient menus, and the dopest soundtrack ripping feature ever -- continuous sound during loads.

Sure, it doesn't run at 60 FPS, it doesn't have 700 cars or 50-plus tracks, and it's not Gran Turismo, but in all fairness, MGS has done a superb, bang-up job their first time out. Forza is a force to be reckoned with, out-maneuvering GT4 in several respects, and beating out everything else in the sim department on Xbox, straight out. The fact is, Forza does some things better than GT4 and some things worse, but it's a must-have game, full stop. I highly recommend it.

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From Gamerankings

Simon and I spent the next half hour gabbing about cars and the ways we love them. He loves European sedans and exotic racers. I love Japanese imports. But just like the game will prove to be when you play it with your friends on Xbox Live, Forza was our common ground -- a meta-place where we could geek out about cars. Sure, it may not run at 60 frames-per-second, and it might lack true feedback support for its Fanatec Speedster wheel (which isn't exactly worth its $150 price tag, by the way), Forza has upped the bar on sim racing. This is by far the most realistic console racer ever made, and it's hands-down the best racing game on Xbox. Congratulations to the team at Microsoft Game Studios for pulling off a minor miracle.

Another one from Gamerankings:

Final words: Xbox owners now have a racing game which actually keeps up with Gran Turismo 4 and beats it in some cases.  

Those are a few quotes. For the record, and if you'd like: Forza Motorsports 1 has a 3 point higher average ranking than Gran Turismo 4, as does Forza 2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if GT4 is the definitive "best" of the Turismo series, then why have both Forza iterations outscored it by critics?



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.