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bigjon said:
Aiemond said:

Its not a win win though. People see through it as a political stunt. To get cought doing one in such a crisis is political suicide. And how is he going to do his job? It becomes a media circus and he is just gonna go in and try and push the bill through so he looks like a hero. Anyways, even Karl Rove on the O'riley factor said this was political suicide.

 

 

Since when do you guys take everything Karl Rove says for gospel? I thought he was like the next closest thing to satin... or something like that...

I think there is a chance it could backfire. But, I honestly think it is more him showing he can take iniative and such.

Also you say mccain would have no affect on the Bill? Well there are only 100 senators, make that 99 because Obama says he can multitask.. So there are 99 senators, McCain is, and has been for years a major voice of the Senate. He is seen as a centrist and in the past has worked boths sides of the aisle. I think McCain can do some good being there, I can see where Obama is coming from, he knows his presence would be worthless too.... Heck why do we need senators according to you all, appartly we elect them as potential canidates for pres now. Last I checked they pretty much run the country, and the President just signs what they give him.

 

For how much of a dishonest, scorched-earth politics kind of guy Rove is, he is a brilliant man who has a lot of political insight.  He understands politics and how to manipulate the American people better than just about anyone in the history of our country.  Hell, he convinced the American public that Bush is mentally competent, TWICE.  That in itself deserves a medal.

Though he did call it wrong when he didn't predict too bad of losses for the Republicans last congressional season, but that was probably the power of being in the White House going to his head.

Rove = evil, but Rove = brilliant as well.

 



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