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Strategyking92 said:
vlad321 said:
Strategyking92 said:
ManusJustus said:
Strategyking92 said:
I believe god exists because it is logical. Something cannot be created from nothing, unless it has always been.

Who created god?  So you say not everything has to be created.  Then why does the universe have to be created?

 

 Bolded: there ya go. Yes, My logic is a paradox, but some things just are

Underlined: Maybe god and the universe are intertwined. You know? Personally, I do not believe in the "big bang" theory. So alot of options are possible.

All I am saying is that science cannot explain, nor prove everything. People think they can explain everything away with it, but it isn't possible when you get close to the "god" issues.

 

No, they are not. I can prove to you that you will never be able to get to work/school or that every human on the planet ha equal amounts of money, that doesn't make those true. Science also can't prove or disprove The Flying Spaghetti Monster either, do you think it's real then?

no. But I can prove you watch south park at least occasionally. j/k

 You have to admit though, even if you don't, that god is far more likely than a spagetti monster. But he might have created one. You never know, science can't disprove it. But..... a noodle can't live.... unless it wasn't a noodle.... but a worm.... a Flying worm monster.... is that what you meant?

No, that's exactly the point. Both are equally likely (or unlikely), both contradict the laws of physics as we know them, there isn't one that's more "factible" than another. Let's use the probably very known, but always handy Russell's teapot:

If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

What differentiates God from the FSM? That one is a belief from ancient times and the other was thought by a guy three years ago as a medium of protest. If the FSM were the ancient one and God the three year old theory, you'd find the FSM believable and God's theory crazy