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misterd on 04 August 2007
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leo-j said:
misterd said:
I asked this awhile ago, and got no real response. Yes, it's possible that KZ3 will simply have some tremendous polish and prove a great gaming experience, but that's not something that can really be demo'd in the brief bites we've gotten so far. There doesn't appear anything special about it, even the graphics (which, again, are fantastic, but what FPS doesn't look fantastic on a next gen system?). Think of games like Half Life or KOTOR, which, if all you had to judge were the preview snippets, really didn't offer much special. It wasn't until you actually played through them that you could appreciate what they were.

So, yeah, right now I say KZ2 is 40% graphics, 90% hype and wishful thinking.
This isn't to say that it won't be a great game when it comes out (or that it will be), but that without the pedigree of other titles (Halo3, Mass Effect, Mario Galaxy) or innovative gameplay ideas (Assassin's Creed, Little Big Planet), there is simply no justification for this much hype.

Have you ever seen a game were your enemies actually react to being hit by a strong bullet and actually bleed to death on the ground, and move so realisticly,

React to being hit by a bullet? Yes. Drop on the ground and die? Sure. Bleed to death? Not sure. I don't spend my time in FPS watching to see how what I just shot shuffles off the mortal coil. Move realistically? To me, just another graphical upgrade.

 at the same time huge thunderstorms and allies fighting against the helghask and get killed by lighting, with destructable environtments,

 Thuderstorms are graphics. Destructable environments and fighting allies are not new, and certainly not uncommon in next gen games.

 and tremendous AI that actually think of a way to hide and even shoot with without looking at you while still hiding, and taking cover as well.

Seen plenty of FPS that have claimed to have great AI, and often looked great on a short run through. But after playing the game 20-30 hours I'd find the same basic "decisions" being made over and over again, and "intelligence" was again betrayed as deceptive programming. If KZ3 does have superior AI, it'll have to demonstrate it over the course of a game. 

Up to this point there has been not even one FPS that can do all that I have mentioned or even half of it. If it wasnt for the cell, none of this would be possible. Imagine that and it was a pre alpha demo. Nobody in 2004 or even 05 when 360 released would think that a system can offer that stellar gameplay and triverse action. And still people doubt that what they saw was even real.

 

"Triverse?" Again, much of what you speak of is being wowed by graphics, but what you see, not by what you do. The only thing that sounds like it might affect gameplay would be the AI - both of your enemies and your allies - and that cannot be appreciated in short snippets.

Sorry, but I suspect I am much older than you, much more experienced, and thus much more jaded about the claims a developer - any developer- makes. If you're hyped for the game, bully for you, but nothing you've rattled off is that different than claims I've heard many, many times before and, more importantly, shown in demos that didn't really give an adequate sense of a games mediocrity.

I'll wait for the actual release.