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hum i'm talking about the joystick position which are not position naturally on the PS3 and I don't know about the new pad but the old dual shock wasn't sensitive enough compare to the old or new XB pad... i had an adaptator for pads so i can play with my XB pad on PS2 at my friends house and they could play with there pad on my XB and I always had the edge on the accuracy and comfort (they were cramping up before me) on FPS on both console... and I'm not that good as I don't play like crasy like they do... the position of your hands on XB is more natural especially the 360 (for FPSs)