To all believers on this site...

[Lem_Nx]

ManusJustus said:

Lem_Nx said:
@ The studies on prayer

Why would any higher power give a damn about something as petty as a scientist trying to "disprove trough quantitative means" prayer? Bah, anyway, let me whip out my Divine Comedy and the argument brought up by

Source of Faith: From the word of God.

Proof of the Truth of Faith: The miracles that happened

How do we Know that the Miracles Described Actually Occurred (if we have not seen them and only have scripture as proof, how can we be sure the scripture is true?): Had the miracles not happened, an even greater miracle would be required to explain how Christianity spread so far.

Dante's genius gets me Giddy!

Why would a higher power give a damn?  We dont care much for the welfare of ants, and teh difference between a higher power and humans would be much greater than that.  So whats your argument, if you want God to heal you make sure nobody is watching?

Miracles as proof is not a logical arguent.  First of all, all religions have miracles and they all cant be true.  Perceived 'miracles' are often not miracles at all, just a normal cause and event.  You state the the spread of Christianity is a miracle (ignoring Constanines attempt to unite a socially falling empire with a single religion), but what about the spread of other religions.  Islam grew at an enormous rate too, should we site that as proof of Islam?

*Picard forehead slap* Some people are just out for conflict.

I suggest you go pick up a copy of The Divine Comedy, it's a GREAT read from many point of views. Your time is better spent reading than arguing on the internet.

Edit: And for that matter, arguing over a vintage 1300 Poem's secondary discussion written by the translator.