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Kasz216 on 18 September 2008
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pearljammer said:
Kasz216 said:

You really aren't complaining about the free Market.  Your complaining about the lack of one.

Since MOST schools are government run.... and all schools have to run a government decided curriculium for the most part the prices teacheres get paid are going to be fixed pretty regularly... sure you can get bonus' if you move certain places or if you teach at a private school.... but it's the almost monopoly that Public Schools have that is your problem.

I also find it funny people keep argueing healthcare against me when i've said about 20 times i'm for nationalied Healthcare.  But REAL Nationalized Healthcare, and the stuff Obama proposes is a halfass solution that leads to a fake kind of healthcare like Autoinsurance that just penalizes those who can't afford it.

 

I don't just mean teachers though, I was just using that as an example because that was my experience. But you are right, I should have used a different example.Our wages are fixed as I think it should be for the teaching profession regardless. That isn't what my problem is. I'm referring to any job in the private sector, any at all. Salaries, in many cases, do not necessarily refelect the hard work and education put into a career. It's difficult to scale the work put into getting an English degree to become a writer as opposed to doing Engineering. They require different types on intelligences, and one obviously has a higher chance of sucess.

All I'm trying to say is that I don't trust the market (again, doesn't include teaching... bad example) to determine what jobs are more important than another but I can trust the government (it hurt a little to say that) to help even that out a little to help remedy the inherent inequality that comes with a free market.

As a side note, in Canada teaching in an urban area as opposed to a rural one. There are no bonuses for achieving certain academic goals, nor for making an extra effort in extra-curricular activities.

Edit: To your last point, I'm not sure if that was partially directed at me, but my initial post wasn't particularly directed at anyone. But I do agree with you, Obama's plan is half-assed. I genereally like to keep out of US politics, but I absolutely love the healthcare system here in Canada. It has it's faults like any system, but it does the job in satisfying one our basic rights without discrimination.

 

 

Writers I think is a bad example since i'd argue a lot more people WANT to be writers then they want to be Engineers.

I mean there is a reason Plumbers get paid a lot of money despite the fact that it doesn't take a lot of education.  It's a somewhat complicated job that nobody wants to do.

It's not just "value" and "qualfications" but how people want to do said job.