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naznatips said:
your mother said:
naznatips said:
Silver_Z said:
KruzeS said:
Silver_Z said:

They should be concerned over the increasing piracy of the Wii instead of the PS3 sales.

Example:

Survery conducted and result was 8million ppl played and own the game "XXXX"

Publisher checks their stock and sale..... "err.... we only sold 2 million!"

If a game sells twice as much on the Wii as it does on a PS3, while being significantly cheaper to produce in the first place, you really think they're gonna care if it was pirated as hell?

I'll answer that for you, don't bother: yes they will, and they'll complain about it too. But guess where their next game will be? The Wii. Piracy or no piracy, if it costs less and sells better, that's still where the profit is.

Also, you're seriously overrating piracy. If you actually do believe that 3:1 ratio... well, there's not much hope for rational debate with you.


Hmmm......... dun think i am over-rating it. Just that I seen the world more than you did.


If you have seen more of the world then I'm pretty sure you know that piracy was the name of the game for the PS2 outside of the 3 major territories (America, Japan, Europe) last generation, and piracy is NEVER a problem in the 3 major territories. You want to tell me where a solid 75% of 3rd party developer focus was last generation, or do you need me to spell it out for you?

@all three:

I'm sorry, but where are you guys getting your stats from?

 


75% was just a generalization. Piracy is rampant in China, Korea, Armenia, the Phillipines, and other countries that can't often afford to pay for full priced games. However, it has no real bearing on the industry, so I don't know what he is getting at.

This is what I was able to dig up (and there are undoubtedly more sources that may have differing numbers - just like VGChartz, Media Create, Enterbrain and NPD!):

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NEW/is_1993_June_4/ai_14017081

Top pirate countries by dollar loss amounts are as follows, with percentages in parentheses indicating how much of the installed software is thought to be pirated: Japan (92 percent) $3.0 billion, United States (35 percent) $1.9 billion, France (73 percent) $1.2 billion, Germany (62 percent) $1.0 billion, United Kingdom (54 percent) $685 million, Korea (82 percent) $648 million, Taiwan (93 percent) $585 million, Italy (86 percent) $550 million, and Belgium/The Netherlands/Luxembourg (BeNeLux) (66 percent) $419 million.

Surprise surprise Japan!

http://www.since1968.com/article/148/

  • Vietnam, with a GDP per capita of US $410 and a piracy rate of 95% (in other words, 95% of the software in use in Vietnam is pirated)
  • Indonesia, GDP per capita US $680, piracy rate 89%
  • United States, GDP per capita US $35,200, piracy rate 23%
  • Norway, GDP per capita US $37,020, piracy rate 32%

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate

Rank   Countries  Amount  (top to bottom)   
#1   Vietnam: 92%    
#2   China: 92%    
#3   Ukraine: 91%    
#4   Indonesia: 88%    
#5   Zimbabwe: 87%    
#6   Russia: 87%    
#7   Nigeria: 84%    
#8   Algeria: 84%    
#9   Pakistan: 83%    
#10   Paraguay: 83%    
#11   Tunisia: 82%    
#12   Thailand: 80%    
#13   Kenya: 80%    
#14   El Salvador: 79%    
#15   Nicaragua: 79%    
#16   Bolivia: 78%    
#17   Guatemala: 77%    
#18   Lebanon: 74%    
#19   India: 73%    
#20   Honduras: 73%    
#21   Morocco: 73%    
#22   Romania: 73%    
#23   Venezuela: 72%    
#24   Philippines: 72%    
#25   Argentina: 71%    
#26   Bulgaria: 71%    
#27   Panama: 69%    
#28   Egypt: 69%    
#29   Peru: 68%    
#30   Costa Rica: 68%    
#31   Ecuador: 68%    
#32   Kuwait: 68%    
#33   Uruguay: 67%    
#34   Turkey: 66%    
#35   Jordan: 65%    
#36   Oman: 65%    
#37   Bahrain: 64%    
#38   Qatar: 63%    
#39   Greece: 63%    
#40   Chile: 63%    
#41   Mexico: 63%    
#42   Malaysia: 63%    
#43   Brazil: 61%    
#44   Croatia: 59%    
#45   Poland: 58%    
#46   Lithuania: 58%    
#47   Latvia: 57%    
#48   Cyprus: 55%    
#49   Estonia: 54%    
#50   Saudi Arabia: 54%    
#51   Colombia: 53%    
#52   Slovenia: 52%    
#53   Hong Kong: 52%    
#54   Slovakia: 50%    
#55   Italy: 49%    
#56   Malta: 46%    
#57   Puerto Rico: 46%    
#58   France: 45%    
#59   Spain: 44%    
#60   Taiwan: 43%    
#61   Singapore: 43%    
#62   Hungary: 42%    
#63   Ireland: 41%    
#64   Portugal: 41%    
#65   Czech Republic: 40%    
#66   Reunion: 39%    
#67   South Africa: 36%    
#68   Canada: 35%    
#69   Israel: 35%    
#70   United Arab Emirates: 34%    
#71   Netherlands: 33%    
#72   Norway: 32%    
#73   Australia: 31%    
#74   Switzerland: 31%    
#75   Finland: 31%    
#76   Germany: 30%    
#77   Japan: 29%    
#78   Belgium: 29%    
#79   United Kingdom: 29%    
#80   Austria: 27%    
#81   Sweden: 27%    
#82   Denmark: 26%    
#83   New Zealand: 23%    
#84   United States: 22%    
  Weighted average: 57.8%    

This is not specifically video game software related, but software in general, if I'm not mistaken. 

From what I understand, though, the US and Scandinavian countries (Finland being most prominent, if I'm not mistaken) are the worst, per capita in illegal file sharing. Can't find the sources, but I do clearly remember reading about it. (File sharing being potentially software, but also music - and in this respect there are gross piracy issues rampant everywhere).