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steven787 said:
Fairness? Do you know why the richest people really vote Democrat and for higher taxes on themselves?

Because they are smart enough to know that they are rich because of this country's oppurtunities and productive citizens.

They support more social programs because they know that poor people really CAN'T afford medical care, and they feel that no one should be denied it.

They are against the Iraq war because they know it is a waste of money, that oil won't even be an issue in 50 years, that an Iraqi life is just as valuable an American one.

Just because someone made or makes money doesn't mean that they don't care about people or want to deny others from making money.

That's the whole problem I have with Republicans. It's not about free trade or fairness for them, it's about keeping other people from competing or even enjoying their rights. You see it in their medical legislation, in their spending, in their energy policy(drill drill drill and nucular), in their votes for allocation of representatives, in their positions on "security" (i.e. privacy and civil liberties), marriage, education, funding religious groups (that they approve). They want to exclude people who don't live the way that they live.

Now, I'll look at it pragmatically.
If you make under 150k per year, your taxes will decrease and government benefits increase.
If you make over 150k per year, the future work force will have better skills and health standards increasing your standard of living.

Standard of living is not all about net income.

So your not answering the question.  Why don't these people just donate the extra money they should be paying in taxes to charity.  Or even to the government.  You can pay more taxes then you need to.  Nothing stopping you... or anyone tht rich.

Why instead take money away from charities that others see as more efficent.

Why don't they put there money where there mouth is?