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bigjon said:
Sansui said:
whatever said:
bigjon said:
PDF said:
This is exactly what I hate about Obama. He talks about change and how McCain uses the same old politics but yet he is using the same old politics too.

Hypocrisy is a huge pet peeve for me. However I still think he is what the Country needs more than McCain.

 

 Seems we are on the same page. I do not think McCain is the best choice for Pres... But it looks like there is no alternative.

Are you guys for real?  I think Obama needs to get even more nasty if he wants to win.  The republicans have run some of the most disgraceful campaigns under Karl Rove and now McCain is following the same path.

Negative campaigns only exist because they work.  This is extremely sad and pathetic, but people keep falling for it.

 

Republicans have learned a few neat things, primarily:

1.) The bigger the lie, the more people are willing to accept it.  Most people will see through small lies - after all, we all commit small lies on a regular basis, whether "little white lies" or otherwise.  People can't fathom the truly large and disgusting lies, lies that they themselves would never commit.  It's easier to accept the perception that a greater lie is the truth than it would be to accept that even a politican would commit a lie so large.

2.) If you repeat a lie, over and over again, there are a certain percentage of people who will believe it no matter what.  The other, larger percentage of people, will generally dismiss it as "politicians being politicians", and unless the lie/attack is so disgraceful and so severely debunked on a widespread basis, it will not negatively effect their opinion.  The small percentage of people that accepted the lie are lost to the opposition for good.

I would have never believed year 2000 McCain would do this :(  Back when the straight talk express really was straight talk

 

They did not lie. They just said things in a way that sheds a better light on themselves, or in a way that makes Obama look worse. There was TRUTH in every statement they made. And if there was not they corrected it. Like with the Palin traveling to Iraq thing.

 

Here is what it comes down to. If Sarah Palin is not destroyed by the election McCain will win. The Democrat are going to do everything to tear here down.

They started with experiance- That has backfired (many people actually she is more Qualified than Obama)

Then went to bad mother- Really backfired, reminded people about how Obama treated Hilary

They tried redneck- did not work, she acts and look to professional for people to buy it.

Now they are trying pathological liar- I do not think it will work, it will just make Obama look like a cry baby (which was my topic)

 Do you at least agree if Palin remains as popular as she is McCain might very well win?   (might be the only way he wins)

 

Ok - they did lie.  Numerous times.  They have been called out on this by non-partisan fact checking political organizations already.  What Obama's campaign has done is "distort" and "shed light differently".  McCain's has just outright lied numerous times, in addition to the many distortions. 

And if Palin remains popular and people decide that McCain is healthy enough that she is a non-risk in the VP position,, then yes, McCain has at least a 50/50 shot at winning.  Over the next month I do believe that her popular buzz as a fresh face will fade considerably, as people forget the buzz and start looking at character and the negative stories about her administration as mayor and governor, and not just the positive ones.