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Sansui on 14 September 2008
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Kasz216 said:
Soleron said:

But he's still better than the alternative. All politicians are liars; some of them have bad ideas too. When you get a choice of two lying, manipulating, corrupt candidates, pick the one who at least claims to have policies you agree with.

If you agree in principle with what Bush was doing, then vote Republican. If not, then vote Democrat. It's very simple - both outcomes will be bad, but one has a slight chance of being better. Even if McCain is anti-Bush (I doubt it), his presidency will strengthen the Republican Party - who ARE following Bush's ideaology.

Actually supporting Obama supports the Bush Republicans.

The President is the head of the party.  If McCain wins the moderate republicans will win out and get a lot more influence and take control of the party... returning more to the days of people like Roosevelt.

If he loses.  The Bush republicans can say "See moderates can't win" then the next presidential candidate will be some super conservative, right wing christian governor.

 

I think you're entirely wrong because the only thing McCain has proven is that he is willing to sell out his image to the right wing religious vote because apparently he thinks he can't win any other way (hey, it cost him in 2000 remember).

I will never vote Republican again until they have thoroughly divorced themselves from the religious crazies.  If he loses, I think a lot of moderates will point it out and say "See?  Selling out to the religious right wing won't win the Republicans any more elections".  I hope it will force the Republican party to finally get back to their real, core values.

Picking Palin instead of the VP he *genuinely* wanted was the final nail in the sellout.  He was informed he couldn't pick Lieberman because of the religious right, and then made, as Karl Rove might say, "an intensely polital choice".  The year 2000 McCain was the Republican party's chance to shy away from the encroaching Religious Right block.  2008 McCain is just another selout :(