Obama... Man Were We All Fooled...

[bigjon]

MontanaHatchet said:

bigjon said:

MontanaHatchet said:

bigjon said:

Auron said:
Bigjon you should have your own show after bill oriely.

 

 

Where are you now Montana?

Pondering whether or not I should even bother entering your threads anymore?

If you're going to lie about and insult a politician that is widely liked time after time with crap arguments, expect to get some backlash. And the funny thing is that you complain about Obama attacking other politicians, while you consistently tromp around the forums, insulting both Obama and anyone who supports him. I suggest you take Vagabond's advice and stay out of political discussions.

 

Well, It looks like you did enter. Also I did not lie. About anything. I guess that Obama's tactics for discrediting someone elses opinion, or statement is contageous. Back to the point, everything I said is true. If you do not believe it, you have been suckered into believe Obama's childish mantra. Like I said I used to like Obama, I was rooting for him over Hilary. But what I have seen the past few weeks have disgusted me. From the slander straight from his campaign of Palin, to crying, and accusing everyone in the whole world of lying. I am really sick of him. He will not win the election, he does not do well in debates (watch footage of the Democratic debates) he got trashed by Hilary. He talks about issues, but then never says what he believes. He is one of the biggest farses (is that a word) ever to run for President. EVER.

He is a Chicago style politician, and it is amazing how many of you have fallen for his B.S.

I do realize the entire political landscape is full of spin, where people say things to put them in the best light. Yes, Politics is deceptive. Obama and McCain are on the same page here. It is spin, it is expected. What has pissed me off to no end is the fact that Obama is trying to make himself look like a saint and paint McCain as an evil lying freak. The problem is the Obama Acolytes like many of you actually believe all of this.

I do realize McCain/ Palin were spinning things to make themselves look as good as possible. All politicians do that. NOT ALL POLITICIANS CALL EVERYONE LIARS!

Also I do not trounce around or whatever you want to call it. During the convention I spent a good deal of time here, but have not made too many post since then. So really cut the B.S.    People are not going to agree with me, I know. If someone said this about McCain, I would defend him (if it were not true).

A good example of me "trouncing" around was the thread Rubang made about Palin not being Triggs mother. I was open in that thread, I did not believe it, but I did not attack anyone until there was evidence. Then I attack Akuma, and others who were so eager to believe such a terrible rumor. I am pretty sure that is a more serious allegation being made in that thread than I did in this one. There are just more Obama supporters around here.

All I can said is everytime I hear Barack Hussien Obama I like him less.

 

I'm going to skip debating over the first paragraph because they are your beliefs and there's not much I'm going to be able to do to change them. However, this quote makes me question your argument:

"What has pissed me off to no end is the fact that Obama is trying to make himself look like a saint and paint McCain as an evil lying freak. The problem is the Obama Acolytes like many of you actually believe all of this."

Uhh, where do you get this from? There have been dozens of speeches where Obama has called McCain a great American, or said that McCain loves his country, but that his policies aren't the best for the future of America. How much ass kissing is enough for Obama to not look like an elitist in the eyes of those who view him that way? And there you go, referring to Obama supporters as "Acolytes." Should I refer to McCain supporters as "McCain Acolytes?" After all, I see far fewer threads from Obama fans worshiping the ground he walks on as McCain threads of the same nature, at least on this forum. And McCain supporters are no less brainwashed than Obama supporters, and you know it.

But you keep on mentioning that McCain/Palin do just as much lying and spinning, and I've already depieced your argument that Obama is somehow trying to make himself look like a saint, so where does this incessant hate come from?

Yet for me, the more I hear about Barack Hussein Obama, the more I like him. Strange though that I've never heard you include McCain's middle name when you refer to him. You must be downing 'dat Kool-aid to come up with lines like that. But wait a second! Acolytes? Kool-aid? What kind of clubs have you been hanging out in Bigjon? That's c-c-c-c-c-crazy!!!

 

I included his middle name to see how you would react. And I must say you did exactly what I thought you would. I think it is funny how people flip out so bad when some used his middle name. So it is fear mongering to say his middle name? I do not know McCain's to tell you the truth, but I might have heard it once. The word Acolyte is in refference to the strick devotion many Obama followers display. They are saying fricken ridiculous things like Jesus was a community organizer on Pontius Pilate was a Governer (the Comparison there is Obama and Palin for you slower folk). Please tell me that is not an Acolytish. A Democratic Congressmen said that on the house floor btw.

You just had to bring up the kool-aid Montana? You and a couple of others use that like it is going out of style.

Here is where I got the Obama says McCain is one nasty dude. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/13/campaign.wrap/index.html

one thing I think you guys are not getting here is I am not a huge McCain supporter, I do not worship the ground he walks on and such. I original decided on him because there was just too many question marks about Obama, and he is the safe pick. Only now am I really starting to be repulsed by Obama. Read my earlier post from 2 weeks ago. I did not dislike Obama. I just thought people were stupid for blindly following his rhetoric when he had nothing to back it up. I was not an Obama supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but it was nothing I did not like about him as a person.

the main reason I am so pro-mccain as of now is because of the politician Obama has become.

@Justus Magus-

The pig lip stick was stupid from both sides, Obama should not have used it after Palin said that Joke in front of 40 million viewers. And the McCain campaing should not have reacted the way they did. But the accusations of Lying are just too much. The bridge to nowhere, I heard on CNN (somewhat leftist, but not like NBC) that Palin was being honest about opposing it, she just should have made it more clear in her speech so not to open herself up to attack. The theory about here only backing off when with pressure is new to me, but I am open to it (as long as the evidence is not from leftist blogs)  Also, I do not believe it is a school job to teach kindergardners sex ed. That is what parents are for. That a good example of the fundelmental reason I disagree with the far left. If it was up to them they would have a bureau to help people wipe their asses.

Also justus thank you for being civil in your disagreement with me. I respect that.