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Kasz216 said:

No there really wasn't.  A very small part of the army were hardline bathists.  The rest were in the army beause it was basically the only way to make any money.  That was a big part of the insurgency early on.  Just angry out of work people.

If they would of been kept on the payroll rather then skyrocketing unemployment the whole thing would of ran more smoothly.  We probably would of been out already since they would of already had some decent well trained troops that could of faught the insurgents... that would be short on well trained troops.

 

Valid point that actually has fleshed out logic behind it, so I am willing to accept it. 

I think the deeper problem lies in the U.S. military's cavalier attitude towards the rights of foreign nations and their citizens in addition to sharing power with them.  Disbanding the Iraqi army as well as the disputes with and condescending attitude towards the current Iraqi security forces are great examples.

It has gotten a bit better recently, but the recent debate while renewing the U.S. standing forces agreement with the Iraqi government is a perfect example of how it has not gone away, as we were very unwilling to give them any of the concessions they asked for.

 



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