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steven787 said:
ssj12 said:
steven787 said:
bardicverse said:
@ Steven - Not meaning to go too far off tangent but your tag, I must comment on -

# Lower taxes for most taxpayers. - Except for middle class. Dems always raise middle class taxes

# Removing Social Security contribution caps. - This NOT a good thing - That means forever having to pay into the SS system, which anyone under 35 will likely never get their money out of, because its falling apart at the seams.

 

First the bolded part: They've been saying that since the SSA started.

Second:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411693

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/tax_tally_trickery.html

Your statements are just not true.

Oh no, it is a bad system. With more and more people living longer the more drain it is on the system. Removing the cap would solve the problem but frankly I dont want to pay for other people to live off the funds I put in so frankly I say SS needs to die.

 

 

Right now the single person cap is $90k per year.  You are not paying other people's SS. 

About 90% of tax payers get more service dollars than they pay.  ($90k per year is the top 15% according to Census Data)

Edit: BTW, I think it's fair to say you don't like it bardicverse was not telling the truth.

If i lend someone 10 dollars for dinner... then they pay me back 20.  I'm still paying for other peoples dinner.

Which is the problem a lot of people have with SS.  Your money isn't kept for you... it's like someone you know saying "Give me 50 dollars now... and hey.... i'll give you 100 dollars in 20 years."

You don't know where that guy is going to be in 20 years.  If he'll have have the money... or if he'll even think it's important to pay me back.

 

Also... i don't get the "Bush Doctrine" being preemptive force.  Clinton used Preemptive force in his wars.  The wars he fought posed no real threat to the US.

I still say the only real difference between Iraq and those wars is Bush committed land troops, and he did a real crappy job of the reconstruction.

Well that and Bush said it... while Clinton just did stuff.