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Impulsivity said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
mesoteto said:
Paul_Warren said:
^ a****le.

 

please do explain, its easy to just say that but not back it up

 

do you know we could have avoided all of it if we hadnt been so cocky and high and mighty, we knew something was coming and still did nothing to try and protect ourselves

 

the only crime of 9-11 is that so many had to die b/c of arrogance and politics

 

Christ, why don't you just take it to the Daily-Kos. Blaming the general American populas for muslim extremists is a completely ignorant and misinformed generalization. There's a reason Obama threw Wright under the bus. This is it. It's self depreciating. Saying that 9/11 isn't a crime. Saying that American deserved it. Acting like those people deserved to die, because of some ignorant generalized sense of karma. That's american-hating liberalism, and far left secular-progressivism at its finest. I suppose income redistribution and a one world government is your next rant.

The terrible thing is you actually try to defend your stance as if there is no counter-argument. Here's one for you:

What you say is ignorant. 9/11 was a crime. It wasn't a good thing. It was comitted by muslim extremists who defile the state of Islam. Odds are, your views on the matter stem more from a deep seeded hatred for America, rather than the facts, and your generalizations are nothing more than you've read on a web-site or seen in a movie that depicted America as the great evil super-giant that destroys all good in this world. I won't get into an ideological debate with you about America, but I will say that no man has the right to take another's life for an ideological theory.

Your assertion that it's OK for muslims to do it, and not ok for America to do it, no matter what the motivation behind those actions, makes you a big ole hypocryte, now don't it?

9/11 was a crime. Obviously. If murder is a crime. Wheather or not we deserved it, I'll leave up to your cool-aid drinking far left socialist secular-progressive ACLU talking points.

 

   Don't toss all liberals in with the stupidity of the few who say either A) 9/11 was some weird conspiracy to make someone money or B) 9/11 was our fault because we were too....something...in the arab world.  The idea that we as a sinful society are to blame is stupid but actually shared on the far right and the far left fringes.  The far left says its because of our sin of neglect of the 3rd world (among other things) and the far right says its because we let gays march in parades and give women too many rights (see Pat Robertson among others, or McCain friend John Haege).  Both are equally stupid and crazy, but neither are the standard bearerfor everything their parties stand for.

    I would say 9/11 was our fault, but not us as Americans, rather the fault of our leaders in part for not being prepared enough.  Rudy, Mr. noun, verb, 9/11 sentence structure, INSISTED after the WTC bombing in the 90s that the emergency headquarters for first responders be moved into....the WTC.  How stupid can you get?  Bush ignored memos that said things like "Bin Ladin Determined to Attack US".  Bill Clinton bombed their terrorist training camp (remember the missles that conservatives said were meant to distract from the Monica thing?  They were aimed at Al Queda instalations) and Richard Clark, a holdover from the Clinton administration, spent months trying to get the Bushites to take Al Queda seriously.  The FBI knew about arabs taking flying lessons and not being interested in learning how to land, about them illegally entering our country, but noone at the top cared enough to follow it up (this was all on the post January 2001 Republican watch). 

   9/11 is NOT our fault as Americans, but the fault does certainly rest in part with the leaders at the time both in NYC and in the white house.  This idea that the bafoons who mess up time and time again in the case of both terrorist threats (9/11) and National disasters (Katrina) are the only ones that can keep us safe is sickening.  If Bill Clinton had beein in office and recieved a national security memo titled "Bin Ladin determined to attack US" you can damn well bet he wouldn't decide to go on a month long vacation to clear Brush at his ranch.  Even Bush Sr. wouldn't have been that dense and stupid, he would have followed up sensibly too and probably prevented the worst of it.  I'm not saying ALL republicans are inept and don't care enough about America, just this lot in charge right now which is why it is so important we purge them from the halls of power once and for all.

 

  If 9/11 is overexposed and taken as a joke by some people (which it should NOT be) it is largely because it is exploited at every turn by the SAME bafoons who let it happen.  Rudy did not undertake a SINGLE anti terroist initiative even though the WTC had been targeted just a few years prior and he's running on his stewardship of New York around the time of 9/11 THAT is a joke, but should not be confused with the actual attack being a joke.   The failed strategies of the Republican party are living on borrowed time and riding 9/11 for all its worth, its quite morbid and sickening really.  Every election they trot 9/11 out again and try to use the dead to keep themselves in power, the very definition of ghoulish.

 

thank you for making my point

 

i dont think that me wanting to listen to my i pod while sipping some starbucks is what got our country attacked

 

our government stcking its nosie where its shouldnt be is what did it, its does in fact go back to what i said

 

the american nation was poking a bee hive and not caring who we pissed of, we have made tons of enimes in this world and for some reason we just assumed no one would ever want to push back b/c we had the bigger army

 

it was just ignorant of our government to sit there and say well we have x amount of soliders and nukes so no one will poke us in teh chest, hello!!!!!!! wake up call all it takes is one man determind and twisted to bring down a building we saw it before in numerious bombings from our own soil......

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ZenfoldorVGI


you seem to make the incorrect assumption that we are the inocent victim as a nation, in this case the only innocents were the john and jane smiths that got up and were in those buildng and And those on the plane that died that day, I am sure no one asked them “hey I am going to riley up some possible terrorist and they might strike back at us b/c of it, are you willing to suffer for this, how about your families?”

 

Instead our government made the choice for them then trained up and ignored the problem until it flew a jet into one of our buildings, then another, and almost a third….