The big problem with Obama's economic plan.

[TheRealMafoo]

akuma587 said:

TheRealMafoo said:

 

 

• When we have lower taxes, the government collects more money. Fact.
  
• When we have raised taxes, the government has collected less money. Fact.
  

 

I don't need a Curve, or any fancy analysis to know this, I only need history. I can not explain why it works that way, I can only tell you that it does. I can tell you this... BECAUSE IT HAS.

Those are clear statements. Show me where they are wrong. Not with some babble about how they could be wrong, Show me where they ARE wrong. 

Neither of those two statements are facts, they are assertions without any evidence tied to them.  How can you say they are facts WHEN YOU HAVE NOT EVEN LOOKED AT THE GOVERNMENT'S TAX REVENUE BESIDES WHAT WE HAVE POSTED HERE.

What history have you shown?  You can tell me this because it has?  You have yet to show me that those statements are even true.  You are simply regurgitating the supply-side economics propaganda you have heard people tell you in the past which has yet to be proven true.  Ironically, I am more familiar with supply-side economics than you, yet you are claiming it to be fact even though it is a highly contested theory.

I am not going to continue arguing with you because you are apparently incapable of articulating even a basic argument.

We both have an economic model that we think in theory works. I have at least the last three years of numbers to show that lowering taxes raised revenue beyond inflation. That means we collected more money (pissed it away at an insane rate, but that's another argument).

Your model (raise taxes and we get more money) has.... umm... zero evidence shown in this thread. You just have your theory. What I would like, is a chart showing how much revenue the government collected each year, and look to see if taxes were raised or lowered that year. I can not find such a chart.

So, we have your opinion against mine, with three data points suggesting mine is right.