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I don't get why there are good games that don't need to be installed while there are other games, that needs to be installed.

And PLEASE do not spin things. A forced installment WITHOUT a significant effect on the game is not a good thing. Loading times of GTA IV were more or less the same like on the 360 without a HDD. Same for DMC, Bourne or Bioshock (what we have heard so far, it will be more or less exactly the same game, check video-comparison) 

For me, this ruins the whole BluRay-argument. Why do I need Blu, when I have to install the game for more than 10 minutes anyway? Ironically the game would look exactly the same on a DVD, without the installment.

Imagine FF XIII coming out on 360 on 6 discs or something and people going crazy: "PS3 is superior!!! It fit on one single disc! I don't need to change a disc!!!11... Wait... got to install for 15 minutes..."

So in a word: This won't become a problem for the PS3 saleswise, but as a console-gamer, I just don't like the idea of forced installs. I mean 10 years ago, we had Plug n Play on the N64 without ANY loadings. Now we need to install for up to 20 minutes (DMC!) before the game actually starts. That is not an improvement IMO.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...