NJ5 said:
I didn't disrespect anyone's beliefs, I merely stated that assuming a "spirit" can exist before consciousness amounts to throwing science out the window. The same science which allows the debate to exist.
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Its better worded that way. When we start throwing words like "magically" and other sorts of words that relate to fantasy realms, the comment becomes jagged. A lot of things occur before consciousness. Remember unconscious people (ie. coma) are still very much alive, no? Body parts are formed, the nucleus center of the brain is formed, but it is not conscious of itself or its surroundings. It does not quite know what it is, or where it is. You might define it as a subconscious state, much like a deep sleep in the REM stages. We could very easily be in danger in the conscious world, but completely unconscious to the fact as we dream about clowns with sharp teeth or being stuck in the next Ubisoft Petz game. (I'll take the prior to the latter!)
In regards to the overall pro-life/pro-choice, I think that either way is unfortunate. I feel that destroying a life because of reasons other than rape is bad, but bringing a child into the world and abusing/mistreating it is bad also. I also believe that children are the most terminal STD known to mankind =D
