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NJ5 said:

Timmah! said:

The Europeans have a very nasty habit of banning games, those same games make it into the US without as much problem, but of course, we're the ones that are 'for censorship'. There is also not as much freedom of information, or freedom of the press on that side of the pond as we have here. There's no way Palin would work to ban books here in the US, that would be political suicide; she & the McCain white house would be way too smart to do that.

I'm not self-aware when I'm sleeping, are you going to kill me?? I kid, I kid, that would be a stupid argument.

The argument comes down to the sanctity of human life. If you don't believe that every life is important, regardless of it's stage, than you will most likely support abortion (by the way, mid to late-term abortions are still legal, and that happens when the baby is very 'self-aware' and can feel pain). If one believes that every life is valuable, regardless of what stage it is at, the argument is really a no-brainer.

I've heard people say that it's ok to take a brain dead person off life support, killing them, so it should be ok to kill a baby before it has brainwaves (brainwaves start very early, though, so this would greatly limit abortion). The problem with this is, a patient who is brain dead has no chance of recovery, and that is why they can be pulled off life support legally. A baby does not fall into this catagory, because they will certainly develop conciousness and brainwaves quickly. This clearly separates them from the 'taking a vegetable off life support' argument.

Abortion is currently legal at mid-late stages of development when the brain is active, the baby is moving, sucking his/her thumb, shows emotion, feels & reacts to pain, and even dreams. Do you really support this? Most abortion supporters do not realize what they are supporting. Go to google images and look up 'abortion pictures' with safe search turned off.

I'm going to reply to the parts I bolded on your post.

1- Correction: The Germans ban/censor games, that's an exception rather than the rule. I didn't say all Europeans would dislike Palin because of the book banning episode, I said "many".

2- Regarding freedom of press:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders#Worldwide_Press_Freedom_Index_Ranking

All the countries in the top 14 are European, USA is #48.

Where's your evidence to say there's more press freedom in USA than Europe?

3- You do know about Palin's attempt to get books pulled from a library, don't you?

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

4- Regarding abortion:

I believe a lump of cells with no formed brain is not capable of suffering, consciousness or self-awareness, therefore I believe it's fine to abort at an early stage. From a quick google search, this argument seems to work at least for the first two months of pregnancy. For later abortions, I think we should take into account the impact on the mother as well as the baby. Do you have any idea how traumatic it must be to give birth to a baby after you were raped by your own father?

 

A Random list is fine for press freedom.... but where's the criteria?  The laws on the books in the US are more favorable then most other countries... with the US' Freedom of Press going farther.

If anything it looks like they are judging total arrests in such.  In which the US Is going to be farther, because the US rights of press go farther.

In the US someone was thrown in jail for publishing data without giving their sources in a criminal hearing of leaked government documents.

In the UK someone would be thrown in jail for publishing leaked government documents.

Other arguements.  Guy in Guantamo who is also a journalist etc.

There ranking has little to do with actual freedom and more to do with journalists in jail... or killed for no reason.

One of the things included in this ranking.

"A journalist killed

Chauncey Bailey, editor of the weekly Oakland Post and a well-known leader of the local black community, was shot dead in the street in Oakland on 2 August. A 19-year-old employee of Your Black Muslim Bakery confessed to carrying out the murder and then retracted. He could be tried in 2008."

What does that have to do with anything?