You're blaming "the consoles" for a problem that's the result of companies deciding to pander to a wider audience. In other words, you're blaming game companies for wanting to make money instead of cater to your "hardcore" tastes. Bravo.
Blaming consoles? Read my text again. All I wrote was about dumbing down games and how you must dumb down games when you go down(yes down) from PC to any console. Can you give an example where games have gone another way around(not dumbed down) or series that have been dumbed down when they have been ported from consoles to PC(lol! :D).
Besides, simplifying != "dumbing down." In some cases - Deus Ex, for example - it did result in a dumbed-down game, but that was caused by Eidos going, "oh hey, that Halo game sold more than the first Deus Ex. People must love straight FPS's, so let's remove all of that RPG crap." Same thing happened with Rainbow Six.
Simplifying is dumbing down. Simplifying is happening all the time and only graphics seem to improve.
Morrowind/Oblivion: I fail to see how Morrowind was "dumbed down" fron Daggerfall. Or, for that matter, how Daggerfall was any better than Morrowind at all. Have you ever even played Daggerfall? That game was a buggy piece of crap. Also, re the Oblivion compass, you must love wandering around aimlessly and getting lost all the time.
That compass thing kills immersion quite nicely and yes I would prefer buggy game over (over)simplified game. What is the point of large world to wander around, if you can't get lost or have only one way to go? :)
(Btw, how you can handle real world when theres no nanny to hold your hand and showing the way all the time?)
Civilization: Basically a different game using the Civilization name to sell more units. Not really comparable.
Well, can you even name any game on any console that is as complex as civilization? :)
Fallout: Bethesda isn't "dumbing down" Fallout. Instead, they're taking the slow, clunky turn-based combat system from the first two games and revamping it into something that should be considerably more exciting. Sure, the idiots over at No Mutants Allowed will complain that it's not a 2D, hex-based, isometric game, but whatever; the rest of us will be enjoying it just fine.
If its going to be oblivion with guns, its not dumbing down? The game isn't out yet, but I am sure bethesda is aiming it to similar ppl as oblivion. I don't care if they rip the turn-based system, but when they take all those elements(free movement, free world, rpg elements & so on) away, it will be dumbing down.
