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Squilliam said:
Impulsivity said:
If cheap sells best why is the 360, post price cut, still not in the top 10 OR the top 20 on Amazon? The PS3 and Wii are always up there, but no 360 at all (in fact the highest 360, the arcade, is even behind the 150 dollar Gears of War 2 lancer).

Some people are stupid or bad at math, for those people "Wow 200 dollars for a 360" will work. Those who can do math will look at a 200 dollar 360 and think "well I'd have to pay 50 dollars per year to go online, 100 for wifi (if I don't want to run ethernet all over the house), 100+ dollars for a tiny 20GB hard drive add on (maybe 100 dollars or a 60GB now, yay) and it still won't play blu ray or do anything else the PS3 can do". arcade+HD+Online+wifi=450 dollars, and thats with a smaller HD then the PS3 comes with standard. It's a worse deal and I think most consumers know that (especially in Europe)

In other news the Kia Rio is the cheapest car on the market at 10,000 dollars but is also one of the worst selling because it sucks. The camary is a very good seller, far better then the kia, but also is twice as much with a lot more features then the Rio. Cheap isn't always the winner. Plus if people REALLY want cheap, there's the PS2 which I bet will be 99 dollars for the holidays or the current price with more bundled games.

1. Amazon isn't reliable - If the PS3 can lead over the Wii on amazon why is it still being pwned overall?

2. Systems without a fleshed out online (Wii/Xbox 360 arcade) are >50% of the market.

3. The attach rate for internet is <50% for the PS3 and it is free and the PS3 has Wifi.

4. Not everyone who buys PS3s uses it to play Blu Ray.

So if 50% of the market doesn't use all the online functionality, explain why they would want to pay an extra $100 for a 60gb HDD?

So if a large proportion of the userbase with PS3s doesn't even use Blu Ray, why would Xbox 360 owners as a whole care at this time?

5. The PS2 is actually $130 and it needs a $25 memory card - That makes it pretty darn close to the price of the Arcade which does have online functionality and anyone who buys a PS2 over an Arcade at this point really needs their head examined. Since this is controversial I'll explain.

  • Awesome library? (Much of it is out of print/hard to find)
  • Awesome upcoming titles? (Like?)
  • Awesome visuals? (The Xbox 360 shows a clear difference even lay people can appreciate)
  • Great word of mouth? (Gamestop employees will likely suggest an Xbox 360 Arcade if you're holding a PS2 box. - I would) Also if you're buying it for the kids do they want a PS2? *All my friends have Xbox 360s and Wiis! and PS3s! *

 

 

I was about to respond, but you handled it quite nicely.  

Why pay for functionality you would never use?  If I didn't play online so much, the arcade would be great.  I could play the exact same game for a lot less.