Coca-Cola said:
steven787 said:
Coca-Cola said:
steven787 said:
Coca-Cola said:
Liberals are scared for some reason.
If she is not a good candidate, then fine, she might not have been a good selection for mcCain, but I don't know why liberals so scared.
It's like Clarence thomas thing. I think liberals should have been scared then, but not for thi |
I know you're talking about Democrat-liberals, but I just want to say, you are right:
As a classical liberal/moderate libertarian and I am scared by her.
She's dangerous. Hearing a potential president say that a war is a "task that is from God" is scary.
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your posts don't make you sound like a libertarian at all.
If you were, then you would be far far far away from Obama.
But I'll take your word for it.
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I think you are confusing libertarian with Libertarian, but I will explain anyway.
I believe that a free market, a free mind, and a free hand are essential to living out my utopian fantasy. That is all it is though. A fantasy. In reality, the world is full of bad things that one person cannot overcome on their own.
Democrats want your wallet, Republicans want everything else.
For some reason, Libertarians tend to align them selves with the Republicans because of lower taxes, and talk about free markets and less government spending (which neither party acts to lower the role of government).
But there are two elements to libertarianism. Economic freedom AND social freedom. Libertarians tend to forego the second to get the first.
Now, I'll go over the pragmatic parts
4th and 5th amendments have been abridged because of the Patriot Act in the name of "National Security" - a largely republican baby, but Dems have been voting for it because of fear of looking weak or being called unpatriotic (which really pisses me off but they will stop that bullshit when there's a Democratic president).
1st amendment, religious right and Republicans want to eliminate many forms of expression.
2nd amendment, Republicans keep saying Dems want to take away guns, but I haven't seen any serious gun ban proposals in the U.S on the Federal level.
Even if Democrats do pass socialized medicine and increase funding for schools, which won't happen, it would be a hell of a lot better than the abominable corruption in the "free market" medical industry and schools we have now. (Schools is one place I differ from pure libertarianism)
Foreign Policy: Democrats promote a plan much closer to libertarian and Libertarian foreign policy than the Reupublicans. Ask Ron Paul or any real Libertarian what they think of Republican foreign policy. I also believe the power to wage war lies in Congress' hands, not the executive.
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thanks for that.
It's weird that you think that the Republicans are the problem for the above mentioned. I blame the lliberal Democrats for them. Crazy thing about politics I guess and we can agree to disagree, but
It just seem like you don't trust/like people of Christian faith - I don't get that.
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Huh??
How can any one of the things I bolded be switched?
1st amendment, how are Democrats more against the first amendment?
2nd, what year did elected Democrats in the Federal government vote to ban guns? When was it part of their platform?
Republicans are saying they want to "Universal Health care"? I don't remember hearing that.
Republicans vote to take money away from public schools, by offering vouchers for kids to go to religious schools (also against the 1st amendment, endorsing a church).
Foreign Policy: I already know you say things to attack those who disagree, but just saying that about foreign policy means you have no idea what you are talking about. Even a partisan, with a clue would keep their mouth shut on that one.
When did I say I don't trust people of "the Christian Faith" (commonly called: Christians)?
I have nothing against people who do not try to force their values on to me. (convince is one thing, force is another.)
I will not vote for some one who wants to push their religious values on other people with laws.
I do not believe the government shoud be involved in our personal lives. At all. It's bound to happen, in reality, but they should be limeted to collecting taxes and providing services. What and how much SHOULD BE up to debate. Instead we waste our time arguing over who's religion is right, and spending tax dollars to oppress each other.
The same could be said about Green Peace or PETA, sure, but the DNC doesn't sound like a PETA convention - they talk about what they want the government to do. The RNC sounds like a very bad church sermon - they talk about what they want the government to not let you do.
A little tip for you to win arguments or convince people in the future. When you want to attack the values of your opponent, do not attack when they are smarter than you. Do not question those values, when you think they might answer. Stick with the good points about your side. Attacks are best saved for the absent opponent, who can't defend themselves.
