I propose banning the term "hardcore gamer".

[LordTheNightKnight]

Dallinor said:

LordTheNightKnight said:

Dallinor said:

So all "spoiled gamers" are actually "enthusiast gamers"?

NO! Look at the OP again!

I re-read your original post twice more to clarify. Heres exactly what you've stated:

Enthusiast gamers: Play a lot, are loyal.

Spolied Gamers: Gamers that are opposed to casual games and hold certain views on companies and gamers who engage in creating or playing casual games.

 

Now, spoiled gamers obviously tick the first box in "enthusiast gamers". (They're hardcore after all, so they play a lot.)

So we come to the second section. Loyalty.

Were you trying to imply that spoiled gamers are not loyal towards the perception of "gaming" as a whole?

How do you ascertain who fits into this category or not? Can a JRPG fan who has an outspoken dislike for FPS be considered a "spoiled gamer" or vice versa?

Millions would fit that category.

Yet, you've stated the cause is only "To play games".

Which spolied/hardcore gamers most certainly do.

So, so far as I can judge from your overly simple descriptions: Spoiled gamers ARE enthusiast gamers with a different name tacked on; purely based on their views and opinions of the casual gaming market.

The whole notion is absurd.

 

If enough people have an opinion (new gamers and the games they like are not bad), and enough people have a different opinion (they are bad), that is enough of a difference to qualify as different groups that are largely the same. It's not different than a fan a fanboy. For the former, the other side isn't bad, for the latter, it is bad.

The same thing applies here. How is that absurd when it's a real thing?

BTW, I misread your first post, but it's still off. The spoiled gamers in this case are enthusiast gamers, who let their enthusiasm go too far, and their loyalty is misplaced, which is not to the health of gaming, but only to the health of their kind of gaming.

(I have to wonder if companies like Valve had broken through to the mainstream and not Pop Cap, and if Nintendo had made the Wii an HD system and a hit with games like Fire Emblem, and not the system it is and a hit with Wii Sports, they wouldn't mind so much, no matter how unrealistic that thought would be)