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rocketpig said:
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

Stay the hell out of everyones lives and only interfere in buisnesses when trustbusting/stopping them from outright lieing.

Though that's also why i'm voting for McCain.  Most likely to come through on that.

 

Seems to be that you're the run of the mill Libertarian. 

I really dont mean to be an ass, but how is it that you think Republicans want to stay out of everyone's lives?  Republicans want to teach Christianity (Creationism, absitence only) in school, want to tell consenting adults who they can and cannot marry, and so forth.  The only thing I can think of that the Democrats would be intruding upon is gun laws, though there are other things they are together with conservatives on, such as entertainment ratings.

Some of us view it this way:

- The religious whackos in the Republican party are mostly benign. They squawk and holler a lot, but they rarely accomplish anything. The rest of the country is too adamantly against them to allow them to succeed.

- The Democrats are always able to spend more money while in power. No one seems to notice until after the fact. Their zealots, while still mostly powerless, manage to slip in expenditures here and there and balloon the size of government over time.

Which is why you see so many Libertarians side with the GOP, despite their intense hatred of the Religious Right. While the RR is annoying, they're more like a gnat with a bullhorn. Loud, obnoxious, but still pretty harmless. The Democrats do a good job of keeping the crazy bastards in check while (until Bush and other spend-happy Republicans came along) the GOP keeps spending in line.

 

One thing neither party does very well is justify and explain spending. To me, Republicans tend to marginalize any spending other than defense spending.  Yet tax and spend anyway (hello Mr. Bush 1 and 2).  Democrats slip in small programs because they get shut down by the Republicans on anything big, and then get demonized for this.

And yet many of these programs are not about increasing the size of our government (sometimes that is a side effect yes), but about improving our infrastructure.  Ensuring our work force is healthy and happy and can actually get to work (roads and public transportation).  Encuring our upcoming work force, our children, are educated and have the means to take advantage of the opportunities before them. 

A republican would look at a young girl, and then slash any spending on access to birth control for her.   When she becomes a young unwed mother, they slash spending on programs that would give her any kind of support to raise her child and support that child's health.  When that child is in a public school system, they slash spending on a program that would give that child the tools it needs in today's age to succeed.  When that child is a high school dropout, a young girl herself, she repeats the same mistakes her mother made.

The way I see it?  A lot of democratic spending is to provide solutions for problems created by Republicans.  Now, I know I'm overemphasizing that and myself marginalizing a lot of business practices that I think the Dems are wrong on, but I think it's a fair point.

Not all government spending is bad.  It's just like a business investing during a downturn instead of cutting expenses - when things look up again, they're in a much better position to take advantage of the market than the companies that wildly cut spending and jobs just to please their shareholders.