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stof said:

1. Your right. Not illegal. But still a flagrant abuse that would leave her completely fucked.

2. which is why I said "if true" The investigation is to determine whether it's true or not.

3. The studies and facts already discredit abstinence only education programs. sex education already has been validated. The problem is that Sarah Palin is a proponent of a system that doesn't work in spite of evidence to the contrary. The fact that her own daughter has slipped through the gaping cracks in absitence only education is more than "just an anecdote", it raises the question of how can Palin possibly stick to her guns on such an ineffective policy when it's effects have hit so close to home.

As for the exploitation of Bristol. yeah, I think they'll drag her through the mud for it when, like I said in my first post, it means nothing about her as a person or Palin as a mother, but as the daughter of a vice presidential candidate, that happens.

1) Cleared that up~

2) The point I was making to you wasn't about waiting for more info, I was actually just adding to the allegations list since it is pertinant information that should be included in any recounting of the story.  The bit about waiting for more info was added to establish it as part of my position, not to ridicule you.

3) I'm not going to get into a debate on the side I disagree with, but I will say it is not as clear cut as you are making it out to be. Just as an example Alaska is one of 25 states that explicitly allows minors access to contraceptives for all reasons, and I can't find anything that says Alaska has a statewide abstinance only education policy anyways. This is another case where we don't have all the facts and you could be making conclusions about them based on assumptions.  I'll leave it at that.

The point I want to make is that the line about "that happens" is a copout.  If you agree that its wrong to exploit the girl by using her to advance the agenda then you should be willing to stand up and say so and condemn those who are doing it.  There are a lot of sleazy ways to advance a political agenda, but if folks want to stand around and bitch about how nasty things are they have to be willing to speak up and do something about it.

If more people actually did stand up and object to this type of politics by rejecting it we might actually make some progress towards a civilized debate.  Sadly many people find that kind of change hard to believe in.



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