bigjon said:
akuma587 said:
bigjon said:
It is comparisons like this that start flame fest which then lead to people calling other people childish.
Lets see, Obama went to a church (which usually mean you beleive what they preach there) where the pastor common made racist and anti american remarks, which you compared to Sarah's daughter have a baby... #1 is Sarah had gotten pregnant by another man then yes. This would be a HUGE scandel. If anything this will help many American families identify with her. Her family is facing a challenge that is very common in our country, and they are handling it the right way....
I really do not see the comparison. It is about the same as the Hitler comparison you think I made.
Also to Super, the reason political flames escalate so quickly is because the material in question actually matters in the grand scheme of things... In 5 years no one is going to care if KH3 was on the Wii or PS3... but they will care about who is elected.
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I think it is completely more valid to focus on immediate family members than somebody's pastor. You LIVE with these people, so you obviously directly influence them and they directly influence you, especially a daughter who is still a minor.
How many other politicians have been criticized for their pastor? Pretty much none. How many have been criticized for the actions of their sons and daughters? Quite a few more. Is it necessarily a good thing? No, but the direct connection is there.
Alright, so we will offer this for fair comparison. What if politician X's pastor (or former teacher, or mailman) raped and killed someone? What if politician X's son or daughter raped and killed someone? Which story do you think would get more traction with the news media?
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You sound like you are coming from the far right on this... Most leftist believe it is okay to have sex whenever you want married or not, they just believe it is irresponsible to get pregant.
Do you go to church? I do. And if the pastor is preaching something you do not agree with YOU LEAVE. obviously Obama did not have too much problem with the message. Now what might be valid is for you to say Obama was only going to church to look religious, because religion gets votes, and therefore was disconnected from what the pastor was really saying. At best Obama is playing religion to get vote. At worst he actually is not bother by Whites message.
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What? I've never seen that. If a pastor has an off day, I've never seen anyone leave. If a pastor is preaching racism and bigotry THEN it would be a little more expected of someone to leave.
Most people can accept that people have different beliefs than their own, and not everyone believes everything their religion preaches. This doesn't mean that you simply leave when the pastor is saying something trivial that you don't necesarrily believe in.
"My Calculus professor is teaching differential equations today. I don't believe in differential equations so I'm just gonna skip this lesson"
