The PS2's success apears to be holding the PS3 back.

[StanGable]

Million said:

mrstickball said:
Actually, the PS3 version is doing great. According to VGC, it's abot 350,000 unit sales below the X360 version, despite the X360 having more than twice the instal base.

So the PS2 isn't holding the PS3 back. The PS3 is holding the PS3 back. After all, why didn't the PS1 hold the PS2 back for anything? Consumers made the transition quickly, and effortlessly....Maybe it's because the PS3 is an inferior product to the X360/Wii comparison as opposed to the GC/XB comparison last gen, and users are having a harder time jumping onto a sinking ship?

 

With the recent performance of the PS3 your sinking ship analogy is some what invalid. I believe that the Wii/360 are intense competition for the PS3 but that still doesn't eliminate brand loyalty (brand loyalty which enabled the PS3 to sell in europe last year without any games and the loyalty which enables the PS3 to sell in japan with lackluster support)

people seem to believe that the Wii's success kills any chance of the PS2 owners wanting to jump to PS3 but I disagree , I think Nintendo's strategy of targeting every gaming audience makes it very difficult for them to apeal to a core gaming audiences in the same way the PS3 & 360 is able to.

I think the 360 struggles to differentiate itself as console and fails to completley offer itself as an alternative to the playstation brand , the only time the 360 has been able to outsell the PS3 recently is through price cuts .(yes the PS3 has had more price cuts but let's keep price point in mind ).

 

My main point is that despite the success of the Wii and the XBOX brands new found dominance , the playstation brand still has something unique and different to offer to the PS2 userbase , if any other current gen console had software support as bad as the PS3's or a price point as high as the PS3's i'm sure 100% that console would have failed to succeed. It's brand loyalty that helped the PS3 survive but it's the PS2 that limits the continued growth of the PS3, it's still a very viable option for gaming even against what this gen has to offer.

Your argument is flawed because you accept PS3 numbers as successful, yet what is success??? So far, from Sony's stand point of view it appears that success is selling more than 360. If so, then yes, you're right that the PS3 is successful, however in the eyes of the market the PS3 is a failure because its failing to deliver what PS2 did where as the wii, the truly dominant console, its having the same success with surpassing numbers.

Then you point out Wii success will not kill any opportunity of PS2 owners jumping to the PS3. I ask you, how can you prove that? Are you going physically ask person to person that owns a PS2 whether they will get a Wii or a PS3? That paragraph is totally irrelevant and all it does is to state that Wii is the one and only successful console.

 Finally, you claim that your main point is the success of the Wii and Xbox brands and then it contradicts itself with brand loyalty. Again, can you prove that brand loyalty is making the PS3 a sucess? Not quite because it sure isn't putting it at Wii's level of sales or at least PS2 levels. It also contraditcs your very own original posst where you seem to be basing success only on sales, whereas you want to base it on a manner that cannot be measured (brand loyalty).