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Fuzzmosis said:
HappySquirrel: Microsoft? Both consoles have launched with them losing money at their retail price points. Add in markup from channels and retail.

If only Dos was sold like that. But that only cost them 40K. (Bill Gates was smart and Savvy, if evil)

I've personally never been all that convinced that the hardware losses were the primarly reason that Microsoft has been losing money on the XBox. Microsoft from day 1 has been spending more money that Sony and Nintendo on Marketing, exclusive games, and buying development studios; Microsoft's profitability was also hurt further because although they produced a similar number of games as Sony and Nintendo in the same time frame only a small fraction broke 1 Million units sold worldwide and a large portion of them were rumored to be unprofitable.

As a demonstration:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Halo 2 Microsoft 0.11 6.46 1.67 8.24
Halo Microsoft 0.10 4.91 1.42 6.43
Fable Microsoft 0.00 1.95 0.65 2.60
Project Gotham Racing Microsoft 0.05 1.40 0.69 2.14
Project Gotham Racing 2 Microsoft 0.04 0.85 0.67 1.56
Forza Motorsport Microsoft 0.00 0.45 0.56 1.01
Totals (6 matches) 0.3 16.0 5.7 22.0

Number of Microsoft Game Studio games on the XBox: 65
Million Seller Percentage of game releases: ~10%

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Mario Kart: Double Dash Nintendo 0.89 3.85 1.86 6.60
Super Smash Bros Melee Nintendo 1.44 4.06 1.08 6.58
Super Mario Sunshine Nintendo 0.87 3.73 1.31 5.91
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Nintendo 0.89 2.44 1.05 4.38
Luigi Mansion Nintendo 0.46 2.21 0.72 3.39
Metroid Prime Nintendo 0.12 1.92 0.73 2.77
Pokemon Collosseum Nintendo 0.71 1.17 0.62 2.50
Animal Crossing Nintendo 0.66 1.68 0.15 2.49
Mario Party 4 Nintendo 0.92 1.13 0.39 2.44
Mario Party 5 Nintendo 0.73 0.96 0.36 2.05
Paper Mario 2 Nintendo 0.46 1.23 0.26 1.95
Starfox Adventures Nintendo 0.32 0.95 0.58 1.85
Pikmin Nintendo 0.56 0.78 0.27 1.61
Mario Party 6 Nintendo 0.60 0.85 0.11 1.56
Super Mario Strikers Nintendo 0.21 0.91 0.42 1.54
Kirbys Air Ride Nintendo 0.45 0.96 0.12 1.53
Mario Party 7 Nintendo 0.47 0.90 0.11 1.48
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour Nintendo 0.25 1.03 0.15 1.43
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 0.04 0.92 0.34 1.30
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Nintendo 0.07 0.82 0.37 1.26
Pokemon XD Nintendo 0.35 0.58 0.21 1.14
Mario Power Tennis Nintendo 0.46 0.53 0.15 1.14
Pokemon XD: Gale Of Darkness Nintendo 0.52 0.59 0.00 1.11
Donkey Konga Nintendo 0.46 0.43 0.17 1.06
Pikmin 2 Nintendo 0.56 0.35 0.14 1.05
Totals (25 matches) 13.5 35.0 11.7 60.1

Number of Nintendo published games on the Gamecube: 62
Million Seller Percentage of game releases: ~45%

 

The reason I brought Nintendo into this is becase I wanted to point out how low Microsoft's gaming income was by using sales on a system that sold worse than the original XBox. The Console industry has a ton of money sinks and Microsoft simply did not make enough money to cover their expenses and this (not hardware losses) is why they have lost so much money.