Russia recognizes breakaway Georgian regions but says US is causing tension

[Esmoreit]

Jackson50 said:

Esmoreit said:

StanGable said:
I think it is the right time for the U.S. to go and kick some ass! We need to put European nations back in their place!

Would that include western Europe, Stan? Please think or elaborate before you post standard-idiot rethoric.

Also Rock-On: one of the reasons that Putin is so popular is that he's one of the few Russians that don't drink.

I read an opinionated letter this morning in a newspaper where someone indeed pointed out that the acknowledgement of Abchazië and S.Ossetia is also a statement against the US/EU's acknowledgement of the indepence of Kosovo. The writer even said that it's hypocrite for the EU/US to berate Russia for doing the same thing now within Georgia.

But, this is definatly not the same thing. When Kosovo demanded independence from Serbia, they did so through politics, backed by the UN and with no blood at all. Neither the US or EU stepped in with millitary force, and thus did not occupy large parts of Serbia to "aide" Kosovo. And again, there was no blood involved when Kosovo gained independence.  

 

Declaring independence through political means is largely impertinent in regards to the legitimacy of the declaration, and it does not give a nation the right to declare independence. There are usually three circumstances that are considered when determining the legitimacy of a nation's declaration of independence. The problem with Kosovo is that it displays the circumstances of a nation that can legally declare independence, but taken from another point of view, it does not display those circumstances. That is why there is such a divide in the world over whether Kosovo's independence is legal or not. Then there is the dispute over the meaning of UN Resolution 1244 which reaffirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia, but also authorizes the UN to facilitate a political process to determine Kosovo's future status. Then we have Russia's ascertation that Kosovo serves as a precedent for the resolution of other secessionist disputes. The US and most of Western Europe do not believe it sets a precedent. This is why the move by Russia is such a provocative move; it is forcing the international order to decide on whether the Kosovar resolution is precedent or not.

 

 

(And Vlad)

I know and that is why the Russian move is a scary one - they do not abide to international rule. I myself would be all in favor of an indepent Abchasia and S.Ossetia as long as all parties went through the motions of getting that independence as stipulated by UN policy. Like Kosovo has. Really, one resolution should never apply to every situation. Every independence, or merger should be considered individually. And taking up arms to gain independence should be nationally handled (by Georgia, as they did though wrongfully), other nations should still not interfere unless asked for and definatly not take up arms in the process.

On you're first paragraph, I'd like to know what circumstances and what conflicting views before I react.