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I think it's crazy that the 360's has had these problems for this long. Like others have said, the 360 had problems right out of the gate. Take the video from http://smashmyxbox.com/ (not to sound anti-360, they've smashed an Ipod, PS3, and Wii as well), they camped out for a couple of days before the 360 launch and were the first in the lines. Less than 20 minutes or so before the store opens its doors, an employee comes out and warns everybody that 360's were apparently scratching disks and having others issues and suggests that people buy a warranty.