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starcraft said:
KBG29 said:
Well at least someone at valve has their hear out of the ass. These PC 360 centric devs are funny in my mind. They have been given an oppertunity to learn how to program games on PS3 which will transition directly into future products, as Cell like architectures are the future of the PC market, yet they are continually hesitent on PS3 cause of that achitecture. Valve had better get the ball rolling or they will find them selves far behind many of their competitors that are already begining to understand development in a parrallel processing enviornment.

I thought Sony was getting out of the Cell business in many respects because they and their fans seem to have been the only ones that ever thought Cell-like architectures are where the PC market is going.............

At the end of the day there is no spinning it.  Superior versions of, and in this case exclusive versions of Valve games are just another by-product of Microsoft's intelligent decision to make the Xbox 360 PC developer friendly.

 

 

Actually, Sony is not getting out of the Cell business. They're getting out of the Cell manufacturing business. Which is a massive difference. They've basically completed the shift from doing everything (from design to implementation) of their chips to merely doing the design work and letting someone else do the building.

(And yes, Cell was not a Sony only product, but it was at the very least a Sony idea originally)

 

As to the second bit - I feel that if MS hadn't done so (made the Xbox 360 dev friendly) they'd not be in the position they are in today so it definitely payed off. Though obviously some of the 'superior' versions are mainly so because the ATI chip in the 360 is just well, better than the Nvidia chip in the PS3.

In a way Sony is being vindicated here as they manage to create console titles that are graphically on par or better (dependend on whose goggles you are wearing) than the best the Xbox 360 has to offer. Despite the PS3 having a weaker GFX chip. So in the end it turns out that the Cell fanboys where right - it does make a positive difference (with the caveat you have to put in more work to get that result).

Without the Cell there would be no titles that could compete with the 360 graphically. At all.