Sqrl said:
Where are the links? This is all from your mouth, with your bias and your spin put on it. Since I doubt you will provide links: The Gook comment: You even said it yourself. It was in reference to his captors(ie the people who tortured him). I certainly wouldn't be referring to them as "My Friends" That is nothing but an apologist attitude. You cannot openly be a bigot and racist if you want to be leader of the free world. Sure, he's entitled to hate his captors, but that does not give him the right to use an epithet that has hurt an entire race for generations. Don't spin my words to apologize for John McCain. Here's a good conversation you should listen to - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjxqptOZeA - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL Iran War: Sorry to dissapoint but McCain has said on multiple occassions that military force is the last option. This idea that he actually wants a war with Iran is beyond liberal spin, it's an outright fabrication (ie a lie). Your link is from 2006. John McCain, since then, has said multiple times to expect more wars. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Buchanan_McCain_win_means_war_with_0128.html John McCain is already up in Russia and Iran's face. You can choose to believe that John McCain is a peaceful man who believes in war as a last resort, but he uses promises of force as a first option. http://inrepair.net/2008/06/18/john-mccain-quotes-about-war/ Selling Out: People can look at his voting record, for themselves and see that he has voted pro-life for a long time (back to 1995). We can debate all day whether or not his positions are pandering to this group or that, but he has a record of being pro-life..and that is a fact. John McCain does have a record of voting pro-life, but that doesn't mean he hasn't sold out. In 2000 he didn't campaign on being pro-life.... in 2000, John McCain would never have sought the endorsements of these crazy nutjobs on the RR, like John Hagee etc. http://thehill.com/op-eds/will-the-real-john-mccain-please-stand-up-2008-07-09.html I did not mean to imply that John McCain did not vote in favor of pro-life legislation, but more that he is using it as a campaign point to pander, when in a year like 2000 he was much more of a straight talker. Agreement with Bush: Anyone can type up a list of percentages and put a year next to it. But can you site a source? I'm guessing you can't since I quite clearly asked you to do that and you avoided it instead substituting your own opinion without a link. For example: 2005 - 77% votes on bills in agreement with Bush See what I did there? Anyone can make this stuff up, site your source if you want to make these claims. Wow, that was just childish and ridiculous. You could have easily gone to google and found it out in the time it took you to type some truly fake numbers, as opposed to my numbers that are real. http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/08/1552947-mccain-voted-with-bush-95-of-the-time-in-2007 http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html Draft: The man says it would take "all-out World War III” to make the draft necessary" (which I would like to see a source for this comment as well) and just because he says he "agrees to some extent" (again source?) that its like WWIII you think its ok to haul off and say the man wants to instate the draft? Do you not see how intellectually dishonest this is? This isn't a thinly veiled hint at a draft..its a statement of fact. If we find ourselves in WWIII we will need to reinstate the draft. At no point did he even elude to any desire to do so. Again a lie. Steven787 already linked the videos for me. But whatever.. you can choose to believe that John McCain would never support a draft, but I've heard him promise enough times that there will be more wars http://pol.moveon.org/alexad_backup.html But hey, you know, in this quote at least he was asking young men politely to serve instead of telling them he'll reintroduce a draft here: "We are in two wars. We are in a greater struggle that is going to be with us for the rest of this century.These young people that are in this crowd, my friends, I'm going to be asking you to serve. I'm gonna be asking you to step forward and serve this nation in difficult times." I don't expect you to do anything but spin this even more than you already have. Antiprocess does that to people..maybe you should look it up. We're probably all suffering a little "cognitive dissonance" here when it comes to both candidates. Hey, it's what politicians aim to do. It's our job to try and sort through it and find the most reasonable candidate we can, in the hopes that they will at least not rape our country. I'm done arguing with people. I think it's clear that you've made your choice, and I've made made. I think the very definition of irony is you coming at me with 'antiprocess' |
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